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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myranda View Post
    I took it to mean that the power side of things is still a bit matriarchal even if offspring and naming conventions is patriarchal. It would seem silly to have the most powerful male (the nunh) *not* be the leader if males still held the power. Otherwise why wouldn't the leading tia be a nunh in his own right?? (Since there can be more than one nunh in a tribe, it seems)
    I don't know, I think a separation of leadership duties and breeding is a good idea. If you mix the two, you get the chance of some tyrannical shenanigans. I wanted to draw a comparison to what Gilgamesh did to his people, but I guess he just abused his position as king to sleep with everyone's wife.

    Different societal structure though, I realise that. I just don't think it's that far-fetched for a Tia to be in charge. Then again, it's more likely that it's run by the women.
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    Going to be honest, the males in Keeper of the Moon tribes almost seem like slaves, or even genetic dispensers.

    "Hey, Lhani, where are you off to?"

    "Oh, just running errands. A quick trip to the Delivery Moogle, then I'm going to stop by the breeding male - you know, nothing special."

    "Oh, fun! Have a good one!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayokane View Post
    I'm guessing if the nuhn showed an overall disrespect for the females of his clan, he wouldn't be nuhn for long. Afterall:
    Quote Originally Posted by Gildrein View Post
    Nunh status does not equate to leadership within a tribe, and in fact, very few nunh ever become leaders.
    Well first off, I wasn't referring to whether or not the nunh is running the show or not. The fact remains that, leader or not, a nunh stands as an influential, status-holding entity within his tribe. He may not make political or economic decisions for his people, but his position is still one sought after and held with respect. Does tribal consensus (e.g. "This guy's being a douche") hold sway over tribal decree(e.g. "Doesn't matter, he earned his title fair and square." dealwithit.jpg)?
    CAN the tribe, its tia leader(s)/council, or anyone else circumvent the established law that nunhs are stripped of rank only through physical competition with other males?
    Quote Originally Posted by Myranda View Post
    It would seem silly to have the most powerful male (the nunh) *not* be the leader if males still held the power. Otherwise why wouldn't the leading tia be a nunh in his own right?? (Since there can be more than one nunh in a tribe, it seems)
    Firstly, the most physically powerful/talented male may very well be a piss poor head of his community, especially in cases where one's central motivations might center on more primal urges. Generally speaking, of course. I'm sure there are exceptions to all of this.
    Secondly, Nunh vs. Tia is only relevant in terms of "who's makin' babies?", not, "Who's the master?"
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady View Post
    I get the impression that the nuhn are in that position because they are the strongest and therefore the best for breeding a strong race. But if one was abusive to the tribe, would they be cast out by the tribe, or because they still were the best for breeding would that be tolerated in the name of what's best for the future generations of the tribe?
    Yes, exactly.
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    Last edited by Obsy; 03-16-2013 at 01:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yrusama View Post
    Going to be honest, the males in Keeper of the Moon tribes almost seem like slaves, or even genetic dispensers.

    "Hey, Lhani, where are you off to?"

    "Oh, just running errands. A quick trip to the Delivery Moogle, then I'm going to stop by the breeding male - you know, nothing special."

    "Oh, fun! Have a good one!"
    Could be worse. They could keep the breeding male lobotomized and hidden away in a cave.
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    Last edited by Nuinn; 03-16-2013 at 01:29 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
    Could be worse. They could keep the breeding male lobotomized and hidden away in a cave.
    ohgod Shinsekai Yori: Kitty Edition
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    Sorry for the delay in my reply, some really awesome (and some comical) points brought up XD Thanks so much for the giggles!

    Totally loving the idea of Personalized bubble chocolates, as for nuhn slaves... there's a lot worse ways to spend one's time, maybe they're secretly into that kind of thing haha though the Lobotomy thing scared me a bit, I can just picture a vegetable nuhn in the back of a cave, drooling lol ;;

    Looking forward to hearing more ideas from you guys!
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    i bet somewhere down the line the nuhn must get tired..you know from all the fighting and breeding and dapper changing and..(rambles on and on)
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    Pshaw, what nunh would sully his hands with changing diapers? My name is Buck, and I'm here to f—

    /is dragged off
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsy View Post
    Pshaw, what nunh would sully his hands with changing diapers? My name is Buck, and I'm here to f—

    /is dragged off
    Hahahaha wow XD
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