An Eorzean Timeline.

[Catapult]

Well, the image above can't be from the Tam-Tara deepcroft. It features an Ixali Banner, as if this location has been taken over by the Ixal.

That's not something I'm seeing in what we have come to know about the Deepcroft as an instanced raid:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...anced-Dungeons

Edit: Galvanth the Dominator is visible in this video by name at 2:54 on the target bar at the top of the UI.

Edit Edit: I'm not sure if I'm ready to unpack the mysteries surrounding the deepcroft just yet, but for now I'm inclined to suspect that Llysander's screenshot could be from a small Gelmorran ruin, although it could indeed be a padjali tomb. By Nophica, it occurs to me we don't even know when the Padjal came into existance - I've been assuming it was at the foundation of Gridania with the "pact of Gelmorra" but I have almost no evidence to back this assertion up.

Edit Edit Edit: That Twin Adder logo is also found behind the cultist rosary at 1:40 in the video as well. You may be closer to the mark than I thought.

[NoloeTazier]

Well, the image above can't be from the Tam-Tara deepcroft. It features an Ixali Banner, as if this location has been taken over by the Ixal.

That's not something I'm seeing in what we have come to know about the Deepcroft as an instanced raid:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...anced-Dungeons

Edit: Galvanth the Dominator is visible in this video by name at 2:54 on the target bar at the top of the UI.

Edit Edit: I'm not sure if I'm ready to unpack the mysteries surrounding the deepcroft just yet, but for now I'm inclined to suspect that Llysander's screenshot could be from a small Gelmorran ruin, although it could indeed be a padjali tomb. By Nophica, it occurs to me we don't even know when the Padjal came into existance - I've been assuming it was at the foundation of Gridania with the "pact of Gelmorra" but I have almost no evidence to back this assertion up.

Edit Edit Edit: That Twin Adder logo is also found behind the cultist rosary at 1:40 in the video as well. You may be closer to the mark than I thought.

Tam-Tara, Mun-Tuy, Toto-Rak. All Padjal names. But yeah like you said, now we need to question when/where the Padjal came to be. If Padjal are suppose to live forever and be ageless, I wonder why they have tombs. Maybe disease and old age can't kill them but a blade to the neck can? Which for me would point things in the direction of war, how else and why would the Padjal need tombs.

The Padjal kinda favor Elezen and Hyur, so it really makes me wonder...

[NadienKirisame]

Sixth Umbral Era - Element: Water

1500 (YA) ---

• A Great Flood submerges and damages many parts of Eorzea. Possibly caused by Urianger and the Archons.

"Alas, man began perverting its powers for self-gain, and by his wickedness brought about the Sixth Umbral catastrophe."
Taken from the WHM page http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/game/jobs/white-mage

So through the misuse of white magic the sixth umbral era came in...
White Mages should not be taken so lightly :P

The cat is amused =^.^=

[shane239]

So much win!!! (Yes I am only just seeing this thread :P)

[NoloeTazier]

"Alas, man began perverting its powers for self-gain, and by his wickedness brought about the Sixth Umbral catastrophe."
Taken from the WHM page http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/game/jobs/white-mage

So through the misuse of white magic the sixth umbral era came in...
White Mages should not be taken so lightly :P

The cat is amused =^.^=

Nice catch, I wonder when they added/changed this around. White Mages, like Conjurers, work with Stone, Water, and Wind...so considering the Umbral Era is a Flood, that's very interesting.

So much win!!! (Yes I am only just seeing this thread :P)

Thank you kind sir.

[Anonymoose]

Now that you bring it up, I think we can stand to remove the "possibly caused by Urianger and the Archony" anyway. I'm looking forward to writing a special Lore Train about the Archons as soon as this bigger project is wrapped up, but suffice it to say that I'm quite confident it was a red herring all along, at the very least with respect to Urianger himself.

[Catapult]

Now that you bring it up, I think we can stand to remove the "possibly caused by Urianger and the Archony" anyway. I'm looking forward to writing a special Lore Train about the Archons as soon as this bigger project is wrapped up, but suffice it to say that I'm quite confident it was a red herring all along, at the very least with respect to Urianger himself.

Seconding this one. Moose's theory is rather sound and you're in for a treat.

[NoloeTazier]

It could be a red herring indeed, but it's still funny the Archons are mentioned along side another Umbral era. I still don't think they're all that "nice" and perfect. Their job after all could be to make sure the Astral and Umbral eras are ushered in according to some kind of plan. Looking forward to the theory.

[NadienKirisame]

Tam-Tara, Mun-Tuy, Toto-Rak. All Padjal names. But yeah like you said, now we need to question when/where the Padjal came to be. If Padjal are suppose to live forever and be ageless, I wonder why they have tombs. Maybe disease and old age can't kill them but a blade to the neck can? Which for me would point things in the direction of war, how else and why would the Padjal need tombs.

The Padjal kinda favor Elezen and Hyur, so it really makes me wonder...

I don't think they are Padjal names... I thought they where old areas from Gelmorra? I think Tam-Tara is an old tomb that is stilled used as a burial site. Toto-Rak and Mun-Tuy could be the same but I don't think they where used are graves like Tam-Tara. Since Gelmorra was Elezen I would say they are Elezen names... no?

The cat is amused =^.^=

[NoloeTazier]

I don't think they are Padjal names... I thought they where old areas from Gelmorra? I think Tam-Tara is an old tomb that is stilled used as a burial site. Toto-Rak and Mun-Tuy could be the same but I don't think they where used are graves like Tam-Tara. Since Gelmorra was Elezen I would say they are Elezen names... no?

The cat is amused =^.^=

They're Padjal. They would be 1 word if they were Elezen, like Gelmorra. Padjal it would be something like Gel-Morra. The closest place to the Gelmorran ruins in the northwest Twelveswood is the Mun-Tuy cellar. Which wasn't a place of living, it was just what the name implies a cellar. The Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak is based on a beast from the Padjal mythology. And the Tam-Tara Deepcroft as we know now has Padjal involvement with the Ak-Inik and Ak-Mena tombs. So hyphenated places like these are based on the Padjal language or whatever they call it.