Dragons

[PSxpert2011]

From as far back as the Rapture techdemo Dragons have been a part of FFXIV. So lets pester Fernehalwes with dragon related questions and speculation here. =D

What i want to ask is, how does classifications/hierarchy of dragons work in Eorzea?

Bahamut is the wyrm king as his reference in coerthas confirms?
Does wyrm denote kingship of dragons in Eorzea?

What kind are the dragons from the 1.0 cgi? and will we see them ingame in the future?
From rewatching the 1.0 cgi i've noticed:
1: They breath fire.
2: They have 4 limbs, wings and legs. They tuck in their legs while in flight.

So they have four(4) front limbs(arms) including the wings and rearlimb(legs)? LOL!
(the way you word this makes it sound funny for pointing the obvious so why?)

Let us not forget, dragons have the ability to stand on their hind legs. I can refrence this fron "Flight of Dragons" as they can talk, fly and walk on feet. Their fire has always served a function for flight but can be deadly as a weapon.

So one ever mentions how anyone can use them as transportation, knowingly Final Fantasy V when you feed a Wind Drake grass, you can use it as a mount. I would want this also in ARR but in situations, not to show off knowing many players would use it for no good cause but to clutter the sky with "wings of fury".

[Alaltus]

So they have four(4) front limbs(arms) including the wings and rearlimb(legs)? LOL!
(the way you word this makes it sound funny for pointing the obvious so why?)

Let us not forget, dragons have the ability to stand on their hind legs. I can refrence this fron "Flight of Dragons" as they can talk, fly and walk on feet. Their fire has always served a function for flight but can be deadly as a weapon.

So one ever mentions how anyone can use them as transportation, knowingly Final Fantasy V when you feed a Wind Drake grass, you can use it as a mount. I would want this also in ARR but in situations, not to show off knowing many players would use it for no good cause but to clutter the sky with "wings of fury".

Lets take Bahamut or even Smrgol as an example. 2 fore legs + 2 hind legs + 2 wings, thats a 6 limbed dragon, then we have Migardsormr who only has 2 limbs visible, his 2 wings. Looking again i'm still sure they are 4 limbed, a pair of hind legs and a pair of wings. Just interested in what kind of dragon they are considering their differences to other known dragons. Like how Nidhogg and Migardsormr are wyrms for example, or how there has been many different species of dragons in earlier titles. I find it hard to believe they will only ever be refered to as dragons.

Those dragons have no publically available concept art (which is a shame because they are awesome) and much of their screen time they are too far away to get a good look at them. It took me a few attempts to capture one breathing a fireball among the entire battle and theres a very brief moment you get to see their underside.

I've watched Flight of Dragons, even have it on VHS, so i know well enough. The Yellow/thunder dragon rears up on it's hind legs during the benchmark, though it doesn't appear very stable. We can also be sure that at least some dragonkin will probbably understand the eorzean language, though we have yet to see one speak it with their own tongue. The unknown voice which is assumed to be Nidhogg speaks in Eorzean, so there is that.

I remember an old thread about dragon transportation that has since been archived, or whatever SE does with our old threads. I wanted a instanced world map, above the clouds maybe. So theres no clutter in the sky when looking up from the ground, just maybe one of two automated ones in the sky like they did with empire airships. You could go in with a party to travel around, encounter roaming pirate airships and floating islands.

[Alaltus]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/world/threats/bestiary

Wyvern

The wyvern is a sinuous scalekin that cuts swiftly through the air on large, membranous wings. A less-imposing relative of dragons, wyverns often serve as frontline troops in the endless assault on the fortifications of Ishgard.


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The wyverns have taken on quite a bit more beastial look, than XI's. They look a bit like flying raptors. ^^

[PLD_Danny1989]

Forgive me if I'm not remembering this right, but was it briefly explained in game if Dragons were able to influence people in general or if it was only Dragoons they could influence/mind control? I'm having trouble trying to remember the specifics about this from the Dragoon questline.

Thanks in advance =)

[Mjollnir]

A less-imposing relative of dragons, wyverns often serve as frontline troops in the endless assault on the fortifications of Ishgard.

Does that mean wyverns are Dragon-goons?

[Alaltus]

Forgive me if I'm not remembering this right, but was it briefly explained in game if Dragons were able to influence people in general or if it was only Dragoons they could influence/mind control? I'm having trouble trying to remember the specifics about this from the Dragoon questline.

Thanks in advance =)

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post990283

This is a sentence where alberic talks about Ishgard and the birth of the first Dragoon.

Alberic: Heedless of his own safety, Thordan fearlessly charged at the colossal beast. Alas, he was pushed into the chasm by one of his own, a man seduced by the wyrm, and fell to his death. ~Lance of the Fury~

Nidhogg influenced/seduced a man just a little before Haldrath tore off Nidhogg's eye and became the first dragoon.

Alberic: Being derived from our mortal enemies, the power of the Azure Dragoon is a double-edged sword. Even as it lends us the strength we need to smite dragons, it heightens our communion with the creatures, rendering our minds more susceptible to their seduction than ordinary men. ~Fatal Seduction~

Again from the questline. The whole questline is typed up at Gamerescape's FFXIV wiki (put it up myself) but Gamerescape seems to be down at the moment or something.

[PLD_Danny1989]

Excellent, thank you very much Alaltus! =)

[Alaltus]

Does that mean wyverns are Dragon-goons?

i had to think about exactly what you ment, i put it into google and it came up with a LS group for FFXIV, coincidence?

They were listed under threats on the official site, so i think it means the dragons use them as the frontline expendable units in their assaults upon Ishgard. But it could be under threats because of wild wyvern too, so maybe it could be interpreted the other way around? not sure. They didn't explicitly say for whom they would be serving, but my gut says the dragons.

[Mjollnir]

Oh I meant as in 'goons' being a term for henchmen, so wyverns are essentially dragons' henchmen, hence dragon-goons. It's a lot less witty now that I'm explaining it. In fact, you've highlighted to me that it probably wasn't that witty to begin with.

Or maybe that LS thought it was and so I'm just giving an old pun given a new spin.

Because dragon-goon is a bit like dragoon, yeah?

[Alaltus]

Yeah it does sound like dragoon... like how dragoons are more susceptible to the communion and are chosen by the Dragonseye!?

No no! I'm not suduced by the dragons! Yet... i started this thread!? I show undue love for the vile ones? Write crazed theories about them? Is there a test for this? D=

Anyways i understand now ^^ and yeah it could be an accurate accessment.