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    From as far back as the Rapture techdemo Dragons have been a part of FFXIV. So lets pester Fernehalwes with dragon related questions and speculation here. =D

    What i want to ask is, how does classifications/hierarchy of dragons work in Eorzea?

    Bahamut is the wyrm king as his reference in coerthas confirms?
    Does wyrm denote kingship of dragons in Eorzea?

    What kind are the dragons from the 1.0 cgi? and will we see them ingame in the future?
    From rewatching the 1.0 cgi i've noticed:
    1: They breath fire.
    2: They have 4 limbs, a pair of wings, and a pair of hind legs. They tuck in their hind legs while in flight.
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    This may not pertain specifically to FFXIV, but I remember in FFXI that wyrms and dragons were noticably different.

    -Wyrms were usually bi-pedaled, flying types. i.e. Tiamat, Vytra, Bahamut, Ouryu, etc.
    -Dragons were commonly seen on all fours. i.e. The dragon from the Rank 2 BCNM, the dragons out in Xarcabard.
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    I have a feeling that dragonkind are going to have a few different breeds. We have Bahamut-style dragons, Midgardsormr style dragons (which may actually include the sea serpent seen in Lominsa), as well as "wyrm," "dragon," and "drake" scalekin genera that we've seen in-game.

    We might eventually find out that "Dragons" are simply a Sub-kindred Family of cognizant, high-functioning scalekin - some of which may have been created or influenced by gods such as the twelve, or elder primals.
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    It's hard to tell, but we also need to distinguish between king and primal.

    A dragon/wyrm king is more like a significant dragon than a god (maybe think monarch vs pope) and we already know of a few.
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    With the trend of FF Summons being Primals in this game, I think it's safe to assume Bahamut is a Primal. So Dragon based rules wouldn't necessarily apply to him per se, but it was mentioned awhile ago in a Dev post regarding the End of an Era cinematic (which also discussed the 1.0 cinematic) that the large dragon in the 1.0 Cinematic was Midgardsormr, and was consdered a sort of 'king' among the dragons (or wyrms) of whatever type was featured in the video.

    It was also implied that the dragons from the north were/are a Beastribe, like the Ixal or the Amalja.
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    Nidhogg is also a great wyrm and a dragon king depending on translations so if wyrm denotes kingship of dragons then by being the wyrm king Bahamut would be the king of dragon kings. We know that Bahamut is a Elder Primal from the end of an era synopsis and we know that Dragons worship a god. A king of kings is a title so high that it could be reserved for a god. It may not be as simple a distinction as all that but still. =P
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    well i know that nidhogg is a wyrm and a dragon king of eorzea but bahamut has had the title wyrm king so maybe that makes him king of kings or somethin weird lo also shinryu is a dragon god so i dont know how exactly to place the type of dragons on a scale
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    And not to mention that all dragon's are evil. including wyvern.
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    The Primals and the Garleans are all evil and the Twelve are good right? =P it's all perspective i don't expect a distinction that black and white for dragons either.
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    I believe it was mentioned that the title of Wyrm King fall within the realm of Nidhogg, Fafnir, etc. Bahamut isn't a Wyrm King, rather he is revered as a god amongst dragonkin. A tier above the Wyrm Kings.
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