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    You probably posted amidst one of my numerous ninja edits ; ;

    I am a little freaked out about liquid/water, I'm terrified to be that one person that it leaked or broke on which ruins everything else. So, I may just go with an air cooler after all. I assume the Dark Knight is your #1 recommendation on that? Do you have any others?

    The 400R case says it has 3 fans (2 front, 1 rear) so I probably won't need more than that anyway. That's 2 more than my current case At least I seem to have a case narrowed down Probably the 300 is just fine actually, too
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    Yeah Dark Knight seems fine enough just be mindful of the TIM application and use a good one that spreads well, like Artic MX-4. At least with the DK if you don't like the fans you can swap them out easy for better ones.
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    Shura, You should look at Swiftech's new "prebuilt" WC product, the H220.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gxbXZSUje8


    It's from a well known WC OEM and it's probably the AIO closest to custom water cooling. I'm pretty excited for it as they're my favorite company to buy rads and pumps from.


    I also dislike huge air coolers, but they do have their advantages, like being great passive coolers for a fanless system.
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    Shura, the "old" model (that I linked) says Liquid Cooler. The new one which you linked says "water". Since your post about the H60 said it's not water cooling, it's liquid cooling (and you are in fact using the older model), if I went this route, would I want to then go with the older one?

    btw, LMAO at the pic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JillyBean View Post
    Shura, the "old" model (that I linked) says Liquid Cooler. The new one which you linked says "water". Since your post about the H60 said it's not water cooling, it's liquid cooling (and you are in fact using the older model), if I went this route, would I want to then go with the older one?

    btw, LMAO at the pic!
    Its the same thing, the new one has a better fan, new pump design, new backplate for new socket motherboard and the radiator shape is a bit different. The new shape is supposed to be better at expelling the heat, based on the reviews i saw, it does do a few Cs better. Newegg just did a bad job with the naming, probably a different person listed it and typed in water instead of liquid; on the Corsair site its still listed as liquid.

    lol was not trying to be funny with that pic, most of the air coolers that did better then the H60 or Dark Knight look like that. Here are a few more examples of coolers that did better then the Dark Knight by 1-2C from this test.

    Phanteks PH-TC14CS


    Noctua NH-L12


    TPC 812 - Cooler Master


    ENERMAX-ETD-T60-VD


    I'm really big on simple aesthetics so i can't justify having these high on air coolers on my board when i can get the similar performance from the H Series coolers for half the cost and a better clean look. Its not that these coolers are bad, most will do better then the H60 or Dark Knight but the difference is too small and really just comes down to your personal aesthetic preference.
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    Ok.... *giant exhale*... here is what I have decided to do for now~

    I am going to order the Corsair 400R case. The little Rosewill pushpin cooler that I ordered the other day will be here Monday. It may not be the ideal cooler, but @ $15 it would cost as much to RMA, lol! So, when the case arrives, I will use this cooler (for now). The combination of this new cooler and the improved case are certain to improve my temps to an acceptable level ( ::knock knock knock:: ). Then, I will have a good case in which to upgrade piece by piece in the future, as I feel I need. The first will likely be a better cooler, but if I find the Rosewill to work just fine, I may have no upgrades for a while anyway, all I ever played is XI and XIV 1.0 and now ARR

    And I want to thank you all for all of your advice and information. This community is the best! I am sure you haven't heard the last of me in these technical threads!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JillyBean View Post
    Ok.... *giant exhale*... here is what I have decided to do for now~

    I am going to order the Corsair 400R case. The little Rosewill pushpin cooler that I ordered the other day will be here Monday. It may not be the ideal cooler, but @ $15 it would cost as much to RMA, lol! So, when the case arrives, I will use this cooler (for now). The combination of this new cooler and the improved case are certain to improve my temps to an acceptable level ( ::knock knock knock:: ). Then, I will have a good case in which to upgrade piece by piece in the future, as I feel I need. The first will likely be a better cooler, but if I find the Rosewill to work just fine, I may have no upgrades for a while anyway, all I ever played is XI and XIV 1.0 and now ARR

    And I want to thank you all for all of your advice and information. This community is the best! I am sure you haven't heard the last of me in these technical threads!
    Lol you posted again while i was typing, but sounds like you have a plan now. I do recommend that you buy 2 140mm fans and install them at the top of your 400R as exhaust fans.

    Feel Free to ask should anything else come up^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shura View Post
    Lol you posted again while i was typing, but sounds like you have a plan now. I do recommend that you buy 2 140mm fans and install them at the top of your 400R as exhaust fans.

    Feel Free to ask should anything else come up^^
    Wow, those coolers are HUGE. They look like they belong on cars.

    Case fans like this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835181028

    Thanks a bunch! Will do ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by JillyBean View Post
    Wow, those coolers are HUGE. They look like they belong on cars.

    Case fans like this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835181028

    Thanks a bunch! Will do ^^
    The Corsair fans are good, some others that are a bit cheaper if your worried about price are listed below

    Nzxt FZ-140 Don't let the newegg price fool you, these are amazing fans, i use them personally in my case.

    Cougar CF-V14H Not much different in terms of price compared to the Corsair.

    Nothing wrong with the Corsair ones though, might even look better in your 400R compared to the other 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shura View Post
    Lol you posted again while i was typing, but sounds like you have a plan now. I do recommend that you buy 2 140mm fans and install them at the top of your 400R as exhaust fans.

    Feel Free to ask should anything else come up^^
    I do have one little probably dumb tiny question. The Rosewill pushpin cooler will fit into the mount on my CPU, so long as I take off the backplate from the back of the motherboard (which will be done since I'm moving into the 400R case)? So, the reason the pushpin cooler would not work without removing the backplate is because the backplate is coming through the holes in the mount, taking up too much room in the 4 holes? Am I understanding that correctly? Once the backplate is off, I will be able to install the pushpin cooler exactly as it was intended? Pushing and quarter-turn twist?

    Again, thanks!
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