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    Player feedback: Please rate the last batch of quests and explain why

    I'm concerned that SE isn't asking "How did we do?" enough. Yoshi-P has said that a 2nd wave of quests is on the way, but do they know how their first batch of quests did with the players?

    My rating: 2/10
    Reason: Simple quests. Same premise each time. Irrelevant reward. No higher context or meaning to performing any of them. A true chore to complete for completionism's sake.

    To me, the last series of quests brought the game's overall rating down because they didn't actually add content. They added pseudocontent.
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    I wouldn't go so low as a 2/10. For me, I'd put it more at 4/10.

    Each quest gives some impression of the day-to-day activities of some Eorzeans, be they in or outside a guild. Some personalities come through as does some indications of what people do to keep their society ticking.

    This is, however, overshadowed by the "go here and kill eight of these" repetition. After you've done a couple of the side quests, you know what's coming with the next one and it kind of kills the suspense (unless you get the odd different quest, such as the one obtainable from inside the Conjurer's guild, which was fun for me because I found it unique).
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    2/10 sounds about right. Did them all and felt like i should be getting fame for them like in 11. lol "pseudocontent"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthy View Post
    2/10 sounds about right. Did them all and felt like i should be getting fame for them like in 11. lol "pseudocontent"
    Omg no dont not say fame again they may decide to be evil and bring that back lol. ><

    ~Hides Cataplut Post~
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    7/10

    They are a typical Side quest no worse no better then any other mmo out there. Typical go Collect X go kill Y quest.
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    What's wrong with fame? They don't have to make it a yag necklace grind, but it would be welcome goal-oriented activity right now.

    In FF, a sidequest was an optional arc that augmented your character's development in significant ways or gave you big backstory that mattered. I'll do a Fallout quest because I feel it needs done for the world even if there's no other point. Quests don't have to be like this. I don't even know what *this* is supposed to be.

    I'm not killing moles just because they annoy a NPC, so says the text. That's poor entertainment. There is no farm with moles on it. That NPC doesn't have cabbages. The moles he says are bothering him are clearly out in the middle of nowhere bothering no one. You don't find the guy later in ragged clothes asking for food and water because moles ruined his livelihood. He's still asking passers-by to kill moles in exchange for his endless supply of cowls. Tell ya what NPC, how about you start selling cowls instead of cabbage. You obviously are better at that.

    The whole thing is ridiculous. Who is making these horrible standards, why are we doing this to ourselves, and why isn't anyone stepping up to the plate and making QUALITY quests any more when it is honestly not that hard?

    If I were a videogame developer and entertainer, I would be ashamed that I produced such industry shovelware. Shovelware. I've been looking for something to call this kind of ridiculous product for product sake. That's what it is. The game itself isn't shovelware, but that batch of quests was definitely shovelware.

    We gotta wake up here, folks. People argue well these are the basic ones. These are the easiest ones. It only gets better.

    Are they? Does it? Just because they're the first quests doesn't mean they have to be horrible pieces of entertainment. Nothing, zero about making quests says that the first ones have to be as bad as those are. The dev team is not going to be beaten with a whip if they develop fun quests with meaning from the start.

    I think with all the more important things that need fixed, we kindof let these quests slip by without boxing the devs' ears on them. They're shovelware, and shovelware only works as a product if the producer knows they'll never see you again and don't care.
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    Last edited by Peregrine; 04-06-2011 at 05:35 PM.

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    8/10. For the first batch it was good enough. We get single quests, small quest series, quests that fight, quests that you just need to search NPC points and, in special, a quest R45 from Ul'dah that i liked alot. I don't think its that complex now that the respawn rate became slower, but when i did it was very fun...it was like an infinite army of fomors (corpses...idr the name of those undeads here), evryone like the other and you had to find mixed with them one that was equipping an staff. It was a quest even a r50 could just brute force finish...they needed to think, like pulling the dude near entrance, waiting they reset and then grabbing the correct mob.
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    4/10. The rewards weren't designed for people with 10 million gil and all the good stuff, they were designed for people starting the game. For that purpose, they did well enough.

    But the fact is that they were too simple. The storylines and objectives could be fleshed further, even if it means less quests over-all. I don't think there is a need for so many quests if it brings the quality down. It's not like we are going to be ranking up via these quests, they are "sidequests" after all. We need only so many that we (or rather, the new people joining in) are entertained by them in between doing leves and or monster grinding. Right now they are too simple to accomplish that.

    So what I would suggest, is to flesh out the quests and make less of them over-all (per update). One well-made quest is better than five generic quests. They will add up over the months. They shouldn't be too far behind the class and main scenario quests.
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    3/10. I agree those rewards are lame, would be great if they reward huge amount of Animas or Crystal shards instead of items. My 2 gils.
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    Reward is way to small even for beginners.
    Thinking about the Rank 15 Quest for a Brass Chocker, which can be bought for 2.000gil an has nearly all stat benefits even at Rank 10.

    Reward should be money, exp or anima or rare items like the +1,+2,+3 ones.
    Otherwise you can simply read the introduction for informations about the world.

    A fun idea would be a reward, f.e. based on time to complete.
    If you fail the terms you get the item we are getting now.
    If you complete it you get an +1
    If you do it good you get an +2
    If you do it very good you get an +3.

    This would also ad (finaly) a challange to the game and a certain amount of thrill, doing quests.
    It would also add a bit of fame to players, because peoeple with +3 stuff would be known for mastering quests very good.
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    Last edited by Jabo; 04-06-2011 at 09:24 PM.

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