Did you PLAY or TEST?

[Grimm]

By Playing, you are Testing. Most Game companies nowadays record the actions and paths that most players travel in their gametime. every crash, every error and event out of place, captured to be addressed.

Yes but this system only works for the most encountered at the monument. I was more wonder as to how many people actually spoke their mind. Like the battle system was changed in beta but that is about it for things that can be seen at lest major things that people are talking about now like Job names and such..

[Grimm]

I know that conjurer and thaumaturge felt different back then. There was not as much MP to spare, but the nukes/heals were much more potent if I'm not mistaken.

Sounds like the older FF games.

[Anathiel]

I was an alpha tester...the only suggestion of mine that I saw implemented were strafing keys. but the targeting and lock-on system were different back then.

[Cendres]

I had a whole big post done but then you changed the title of the thread and I lost it.....

Mini version:.
From what I recall we were led to believe or chose to believe the rest of the game's content was being held back so as not to ruin or reveal the whole game, which turned out to not be exactly true. A lot of the defense against criticism came from this belief. I'd like to point out that negative criticism will ALWAYS be badly received, we would be in a better situation if people could actually word their opinions, ideas and impressions in ways that don't instantly insult someone's sensibility. Mutual respect and a sense of being mindful of other people thoughts and feelings other then ourselves is an art mostly forgotten nowadays.

Another thing, SE was going to release this when they decided they would and no matter what the community said or reported that's when it would happen, they did scramble a bit at the end but the responsible thing to do would have been at least a four to five month delay. I will say that many of the things that people actually mostly aggreed on were not listened to.

[Shikaree]

I was in since alpha, but I'm sure lots of people wanted to get into testing to play the game. I did do my share of reporting findings, not bugs so much (bug reporting wasn't as much required for late alpha and after testers) but more on what I found wrong with the system.

One thing I noted on the forums was that if you played on a smaller resolution, your gear setup menu was so large it would expand off the side of the screen. Also I was someone who mentioned a solution to underwear gear wear back when it was still in, I said "either link underwear to appropriate gear slots so you can take off one or the other but not both at the same time, or remove underwear from this rule and make it purely cosmetic". Note the underwear issue was back in closed beta, how long now did it take before they actually fixed it when the game went live?

Of course the problems that are with this game since release has much more than just your underwear boring holes faster than your outer armor.

[Galamantyl]

Sounds like the older FF games.

Don't get me started... ;p

[Grimm]

I had a whole big post done but then you changed the title of the thread and I lost it.....

Mini version:.
From what I recall we were led to believe or chose to believe the rest of the game's content was being held back so as not to ruin or reveal the whole game, which turned out to not be exactly true. A lot of the defense against criticism came from this belief. I'd like to point out that negative criticism will ALWAYS be badly received, we would be in a better situation if people could actually word their opinions, ideas and impressions in ways that don't instantly insult someone's sensibility. Mutual respect and a sense of being mindful of other people thoughts and feelings other then ourselves is an art mostly forgotten nowadays.

Another thing, SE was going to release this when they decided they would and no matter what the community said or reported that's when it would happen, they did scramble a bit at the end but the responsible thing to do would have been at least a four to five month delay. I will say that many of the things that people actually mostly aggreed on were not listened to.

Sorry about that! But thanks for the details and I agree some people tend to be rude when reporting bug or voicing opinions

[BelgianRofl]

5 years to release a game is not *rushed

[Grimm]

Don't get me started... ;p

But I must! I wish they would just make a modern traditional FF game with all the jobs from V and Tactics. But job's like Mime be restricted a bit. Also great story telling for an MMO like XI.

[Grimm]

5 years to release a game is not *rushed

Your right but, all we know is a tech demo. Does not mean they were working on it that whole time.