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    Rank 50 Behests/Regional Leves

    So the more I talk with people in game the more it becomes obvious that we need rank 50 zones now rather then when there is a change to the level cap. Lets review whats going on.

    Behests.
    - So many lower rank players are entering 40 behests(lower then 40 that is, not overly low) that the people who use behest to rank up can not do so effectively to get to 40.

    Botony/Mining
    - You are forced to grind the last few levels for so little SP per swing that it is just downright painful. Unlike fishing there are no grade 6+ nodes to get better SP off of, so you are just stuck with it as it is.

    Leves in general
    - Lets face it, we start all our other ranks before we are at them, why not give us rank 50 leves to go along with this. Something to strive for, for the final few levels without having to do the same leves we have probly been doing since 33 when we started rank 40s.


    Im sure other people may have more to add to this.

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    I am in favor of this idea

    I am strongly against this taking priority over other content in development, no offense. I'd like to see some large-scale end-game PvE content, as well as the beast tribes and public companies (whatever they are). More behests/guildleves aren't that exciting to me right now.
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    I honestly think this needs to be done ASAP. I somewhat dread reaching R45-50 precisely for this reason and have been trying to level a variety of lower-ranked classes in order to not have to deal with that current inevitability. The game should not discourage me from ranking up, I think.
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    I am all for this idea! It's kinda lousy that around the time that you start needing eleventy-billion SP per rank is also around the time that behest becomes nearly useless and all the mobs around the R40 camps become not-so-good for grinding on. Sure you can go to one of the R50+ areas for that, but that is just more travel time and grinding mobs is the only thing to do there.

    Plus, I think it is safe to say that by the time many people hit R50 they have spent more time at Camp Broken Water and Halatali than at all the other leve spots in Thanalan combined. xD I am really excited to hit R50, then I won't have to go to those same darn R40 camps and do those same darn R40 leves again for awhile!

    Seriously though, looking at the lack of r50 leves/behest and the relatively pitiful selection of r40+ battle gear (for mages anyway, haven't checked DoW), I don't think SE was ready for a bunch of high ranked players at the start. Which is understandable, but hopefully they will fix this now that the game is 6+ months old.
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    If you think camps are crowded just go somewhere else like Nine Ivies or Bald Knoll, hell even Iron Lake. But yeah I agree with you 50s are needed! Hope they get someone on that soon. I wouldn't think it would take very long to copy/paste some 40s leves into 50s. LOL.
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    I actually made a thread about this very thing earlier on in the Guildleve's section here is what I put:

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    Hi I was wondering why we don't have any rank 50 leve camps? We should unlock R50 leves at R43. At the minute we get R20 leves at 13, R30 leves at 23, R40 leves at 33 and then have to do the same R40 leves all the way from R33 to 50.

    This is causing a lot of congestion at the R40 camps well mainly Broken Water as such a big level range of players are doing the same leves. Anyone who has tried to do Broken Water leves at reset will surely have noticed the lag that happens as so many people pile into the zone to do the leves there. Also Behest suffers as again you have such a huge level range of players all converging on the same camp.

    I am aware most of the players are heading to Broken Water to do certain leves but I still think even if you balanced all the other leves out so they all gave the same SP you would still have this problem of congestion as Rank 43+ players have no where else to go.

    I hope you can get the R50 camps open soon so it can help spread the players around a bit more.
    The thread is HERE^^
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    I agree about the need for rank 50 behests. Anywhere above rank 45 the behests that have been implimented already are simply not worth the time. Out of sheer boredom I tried Broken Water Behest yesterday as a 48 Conjurer just to see how much exp I would get per mob...33 SP each. At 100k tnl...I don't even want to do the math on that.

    I do have to disagree a little bit about the need for rank 50 leves though. With an organized linkshell you can grab a few high SP leves and abandon them with only one mob remaining. When you run Dunesfolk for Dinner with 3 links on 3 stars, you can get 1k SP per mob, easily 12k+ per run. Ranine Reveries isn't always that good, but Great Hoary Toads is pretty consistent SP as well.

    My linkshell ran Dunesfolk, Ranine Reveries, and Great Hoary Toads today, plus a couple extra BW leves. I ran out of Guardian's aspect after the first leve and a lot of our players didn't link, and we still cleared 50K+ SP in about 90 minutes.

    Don't get me wrong, rank 50 leves would be nice, but they are definitely not necessary at this point since you can still get great SP running rank 40 leves on 3 stars with links. I would honestly rather have the devs spend their time on something else...like adjusting the battle system itself so that stats and gear actually matter...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiko View Post
    I agree about the need for rank 50 behests. Anywhere above rank 45 the behests that have been implimented already are simply not worth the time. Out of sheer boredom I tried Broken Water Behest yesterday as a 48 Conjurer just to see how much exp I would get per mob...33 SP each. At 100k tnl...I don't even want to do the math on that.

    I do have to disagree a little bit about the need for rank 50 leves though. With an organized linkshell you can grab a few high SP leves and abandon them with only one mob remaining. When you run Dunesfolk for Dinner with 3 links on 3 stars, you can get 1k SP per mob, easily 12k+ per run. Ranine Reveries isn't always that good, but Great Hoary Toads is pretty consistent SP as well.

    My linkshell ran Dunesfolk, Ranine Reveries, and Great Hoary Toads today, plus a couple extra BW leves. I ran out of Guardian's aspect after the first leve and a lot of our players didn't link, and we still cleared 50K+ SP in about 90 minutes.

    Don't get me wrong, rank 50 leves would be nice, but they are definitely not necessary at this point since you can still get great SP running rank 40 leves on 3 stars with links. I would honestly rather have the devs spend their time on something else...like adjusting the battle system itself so that stats and gear actually matter...
    I agree with you that R40 leves are fine atm but when you break it down R30 leves are still great at R40 but R40 leves are even better SP. So if they added R50 leves the SP would be even better once you hit R40+. I do abandoned leves with my LS every reset and yes you do get great SP very quickly but so does everyone else so at reset BW is a lagfest. With R50 camps it should ease a bit of the congestion especially at Broken Water as people are there from R30-50.

    But yeah there are other areas where I would rather they focus their time right now.
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    yea definitely felt the pinch from 45+ I just stopped doing behests it was just not worth the headache any more. I did the same rotation of Dunes folk reveries and other high sp leves. If i see another blotched wolf ever again it will be far to soon.

    Every once in a while i would remark "Man i will love it when they open up leves for r50's" going to the same place for close to thirty ranks gets really really stale after a while.
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