Advice on Graphics Cards

[Abriael]

Spending 200$ on the graphics card alone is in no way saving money..and I dont see how a 5770 would be ''bogging down'' compared to a 5450

You're saving money because you won't need to buy another one for years. It's a fairly futureproof card. The 5770 was obsolete two years ago, and it's *discontinued* now. There's a reason for that.

A 5770 will bog down any modern PC. When she'll finally decide to change her other parts, and sooner or later she'll have to if she wants to continue playing on PCs, the 5770 would be a dead weight in it.

On the other hand a card like a 660 will be a good base for any upgrade. Hence, saving money.

Advising anyone to buy a discontinued card is honestly quite nearsighted. It does not save them money on the long run, and the performance they'll get will be sub-par anyway.

[HiirNoivl]

You're saving money because you won't need to buy another one for years. It's a fairly futureproof card. The 5770 was obsolete two years ago, and it's *discontinued* now. There's a reason for that.

A 5770 will bog down any modern PC. When she'll finally decide to change her other parts, and sooner or later she'll have to if she wants to continue playing on PCs, the 5770 would be a dead weight in it.

On the other hand a card like a 660 will be a good base for any upgrade. Hence, saving money.

Advising anyone to buy a discontinued card is honestly quite nearsighted. It does not save them money on the long run, and the performance they'll get will be sub-par anyway.

And please keep in mind that Yoshi P is planning to scale up the quality of the graphics in the game over time based on a few of his interviews (Hmmmm PS Foooour....?) So plan your PC choices accordingly. o.o/

[Shura]

Advising anyone to buy a discontinued card is honestly quite nearsighted. It does not save them money on the long run, and the performance they'll get will be sub-par anyway.

The OP specifically said he/she was looking for a "cheap" GPU to run the game decently and if possible he/she would rather not upgrade the PSU. Hence the 6670, both 660 and 5770 require a new PSU. If the OP does decide to change PSU, then there are still better bang for buck options, assuming the OP still wants a cheap solution. Considering the OPs specs and the fact he/she runs at 1024 x 768, a 660 for $210+ is really not the best option.

If OP wants to future proof and is willing to spend extra, then i too would personally be recommending different stuff but to assume were being nearsighted simply because we were trying to meet OPs requirements only shows your own lack of comprehension on the issue.

[Zenaku]

The OP specifically said he/she was looking for a "cheap" GPU to run the game decently and if possible he/she would rather not upgrade the PSU. Hence the 6670, both 660 and 5770 require a new PSU. If the OP does decide to change PSU, then there are still better bang for buck options, assuming the OP still wants a cheap solution. Considering the OPs specs and the fact he/she runs at 1024 x 768, a 660 for $210+ is really not the best option.

If OP wants to future proof and is willing to spend extra, then i too would personally be recommending different stuff but to assume were being nearsighted simply because we were trying to meet OPs requirements only shows your own lack of comprehension on the issue.

What video card would you say is a worth upgrade for around 200$ i have a 450GTS. I was thinking of getting a 660 myself seem to be a good video card for 200ish.

[Shura]

What video card would you say is a worth upgrade for around 200$ i have a 450GTS. I was thinking of getting a 660 myself seem to be a good video card for 200ish.

for $200 660 is your best bet, but if your considering spending $300 on the TI and are not bound to one brand name, then i would recommend the Sapphire 7950 Dual-X, best bang for buck card out there imo, and overclocks like a beast.

[Zenaku]

for $200 660 is your best bet, but if your considering spending $300 on the TI and are not bound to one brand name, then i would recommend the Sapphire 7950 Dual-X, best bang for buck card out there imo, and overclocks like a beast.

ya i'm not crazy about overclocking and 660 is ok for 200$ then if i get the 7950 or the 660ti i wont have enough to upgrade my CPU. Once i have more money to waste i'm just going to upgrade everything for now i just want something to last me a few years too then.

[Shura]

ya i'm not crazy about overclocking and 660 is ok for 200$ then if i get the 7950 or the 660ti i wont have enough to upgrade my CPU. Once i have more money to waste i'm just going to upgrade everything for now i just want something to last me a few years too then.

Zenaku what kind of motherboard do you have? i noticed in a earlier post you said you were thinking up upgrading to a 1055t from a 925. while the 1055t is a better cpu, its not much of an upgrade. The extra 2 cores will help you with multitasking but not much difference in gaming compared to what you have now; I would recommend the 1075t or 1090t, those 2 would be more of an upgrade with more noticeable difference in gaming compared to 1055t.

[Zenaku]

Zenaku what kind of motherboard do you have? i noticed in a earlier post you said you were thinking up upgrading to a 1055t from a 925. while the 1055t is a better cpu, its not much of an upgrade. The extra 2 cores will help you with multitasking but not much difference in gaming compared to what you have now; I would recommend the 1075t or 1090t, those 2 would be more of an upgrade with more noticeable difference in gaming compared to 1055t.

I build my computer around the time FFXIV is about to release so i don't have support for AMD3+ so i can get any CPU as long as it's AMD3 . Once i have enough money i will upgrade my mobo and my cpu but for now i just want something to last me longer.

From the benchmark i seen the 1055 and the 1075 are only 326 in score but i guess that don't matter to much. I guess i get myself a 660 video card and save enough to get myself a 1090T or just use that money to upgrade my mobo with a AMD3+ cpu i guess i also have to get myself DDR3 ram to go with it

[Zenaku]

You're saving money because you won't need to buy another one for years. It's a fairly futureproof card. The 5770 was obsolete two years ago, and it's *discontinued* now. There's a reason for that.

A 5770 will bog down any modern PC. When she'll finally decide to change her other parts, and sooner or later she'll have to if she wants to continue playing on PCs, the 5770 would be a dead weight in it.

On the other hand a card like a 660 will be a good base for any upgrade. Hence, saving money.

Advising anyone to buy a discontinued card is honestly quite nearsighted. It does not save them money on the long run, and the performance they'll get will be sub-par anyway.

That make me feel better about me getting a 660 around FFXIV release lol. Which version you talking about tho normal or TI

[Abriael]

That make me feel better about me getting a 660 around FFXIV release lol. Which version you talking about tho normal or TI

They're both very good cards. Get the normal if you want to save some money, or the TI if you want to go the extra mile for a bit more juice. Remember that the Ti requires two power connectors instead of one, but that shouldn't be a problem.

Mind you, with a good processor (AMD 965 black edition for instance) and 4 gigs of ram even just the 660 holds the benchmark at over 6000 at maximum settings, so it's just a matter of how much you wanna spend and how futureproof you wanna be.

Ultimately the TI is the best card between the two, but the normal is probably slightly better bang-for-buck.