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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    You're right, it is here to stay. I'm not crying- I'm simply posing a logical argument about what would be better for the game- regardless of whether or not it will actually happen.
    Only, your argument doesn't include much logic and especially it doesn't include much knowledge about the topic at hand.

    The problem does exist. batch-downgrading assets doesn't solve the issue at hand.
    Only it does. That's how you fit a game from a superior platform into an inferior one.

    Who said anything about soon? It took 10 years of FFXI before PS2 support began the process of being dropped in FFXI. It *will* happen, eventually. Then you'll have a million threads bitching about the support drop and how "we're still customers too" and "we shouldn't have to buy a new console to play the game"
    It's not my responsibility to worry about bitching nor is yours. FFXI is still alive and kicking, despite the bitches. This is a technical discussion, not a discussion about people bitching because maybe, who knows, support for their platform will be dropped several years from now.

    - and on that last part, I agree- if only they bought a PC, it would have lasted longer before even needing upgrades, and you could perform those upgrades for less than buying a new console.
    Not everyone wants to bother with all the additional work a PC brings. Which is why consoles have a bigger installed base than gaming PC. A lot of people just want to put the disc in and play and bringing in that *massive* playerbase can only be good for PC players as well.

    The more money a game makes, the more it'll be supported, on all platforms.
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    That's your personal problem, and has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
    On the contrary, it has everything to do with the subject at hand, because the quality of the game is the whole point of this debate- People who don't want the PS3 version to exist don't want it to exist because it will bring down the quality of the game- at the very least for the people who buy the lesser version.

    You do not need 8347265873465873465 players to have a successful MMO- better to have a quality experience on one platform than a lesser quality experience on several. As long as the game is profitable, it will be supported. Everquest is still running after all these years- Does it have a huge playerbase? No. Does it make money? Yes. Therefore, it keeps running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    On the contrary, it has everything to do with the subject at hand, because the quality of the game is the whole point of this debate- People who don't want the PS3 version to exist don't want it to exist because it will bring down the quality of the game- at the very least for the people who buy the lesser version.
    LOL. People that don't want the PS3 version do so just because of an irrational fear that it will hold back the PC version, as many posts on this thread demonstrate.

    It has nothing to do with the quality of the PS3 version, that we didn't see yet anyway. if you're not a PS3 gamer you have no place deciding for them if they should prefer playing the game with a quality that fits their console or not playing it at all.

    You do not need 8347265873465873465 players to have a successful MMO- better to have a quality experience on one platform than a lesser quality experience on several. As long as the game is profitable, it will be supported. Everquest is still running after all these years- Does it have a huge playerbase? No. Does it make money? Yes. Therefore, it keeps running.
    The more paying players you have, the higher your budget, the more you can spend on the game, the higher quality you can push. The more you can afford spreading your target further with more localizations, more platforms, more content, allowing the game to grow upon itself. This is an iron-clad equation.

    It's the difference between a game that survives and a game that thrives. You seem to want the game to merely survive. Obviously that's a completely illogical standpoint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    On the contrary, it has everything to do with the subject at hand, because the quality of the game is the whole point of this debate- People who don't want the PS3 version to exist don't want it to exist because it will bring down the quality of the game- at the very least for the people who buy the lesser version.
    Are you saying that people who choose to buy the lesser quality version, in this case the PS3 version, will be upset for doing so? While I will not disagree that there are probably people who are like that I would say to them that they should have bought the PC version instead. However, I dont thing this is the case. My wife has been thinking about playing ARR when it is released. With only one computer in the house the PS3 is an option for her. I know that for alot of us who own a nice gaming PC, we like to see how high of a benchmark score we can get, or how many FPS we have when running at max settings, but for alot of players none of this matters. (Dont get me wrong, Im an old school gamer. I could still go back and play the original Zelda and love it) Graphics is really the only big difference between the two versions and for some players, like my wife, they could care less. The core of what makes this game is still the same core that we all love. So I just dont see how having a "lesser version" would cause problems.

    You do not need 8347265873465873465 players to have a successful MMO- better to have a quality experience on one platform than a lesser quality experience on several. As long as the game is profitable, it will be supported. Everquest is still running after all these years- Does it have a huge playerbase? No. Does it make money? Yes. Therefore, it keeps running.
    I dont understand what you mean by having a lesser quality experience on several platforms. Are you saying that because the PS3 version exists that its going to bring down the quality of your PC playing experience? Please explain. In your previous comment you said that the lesser quality experience would at the very least only affect the people who buy the lesser version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    On the contrary, it has everything to do with the subject at hand, because the quality of the game is the whole point of this debate- People who don't want the PS3 version to exist don't want it to exist because it will bring down the quality of the game- at the very least for the people who buy the lesser version.
    Would you prefer SE remove the FFXIV configuration program and force players to play with the highest specs simply because you think less powerful PC will "bring down the quality of the game" ?

    Soon, PS3-reluctant-players will say "People will less than 6000 on the benchmark, you're not allowed to play the game cause you're spoiling our fun !!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Would you prefer SE remove the FFXIV configuration program and force players to play with the highest specs simply because you think less powerful PC will "bring down the quality of the game" ?

    Soon, PS3-reluctant-players will say "People will less than 6000 on the benchmark, you're not allowed to play the game cause you're spoiling our fun !!!"
    Haha, gotta say, I loved this one.
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