FFXIV Trolls

[Malakhim]

I've been reading a lot of threads recently and it seems like whenever somebody voices distaste for the FFXIV's systems or the way SE has been handling things they are inevitably labeled as a troll.

I honestly disagree with this. I don't think there are many trolls at all. I'm sure all of these people want the game to be changed for the better. I don't believe anybody would be wasting their time on a forum for a game they knew/wanted to die.

Just my thoughts.

You haven't been on the internet for that long then... >.>

Either way I agree with MZ.

Also

It's worse than you think actually.

The moderators are suspending accounts and closing any threads in which there is a disagreement between two crowds of people. For example, there was a WoW thread a while ago that was locked because the moderator felt "comparing FFXIV to other titles" creates undesired debates, then slapped the FFXIV forum guidelines in their post (which had nothing to do with the thread's validity mind you). I was not the creator of the thread, but I didn't see anything wrong with the subject matter.

This is likely due to one of two things: the forum moderators here have a bias'ed interpretation of what's considered an offensive argument, or the forum moderators are trying to isolate a specific group of opinions in order to influence feedback somehow.

OR, it could just be that due to the general vibe of the posters on the official forums thus far, they've decided that those types of threads are relatively pointless, lead to unsubstantiated insults against posters or other instances of trolling(not necessarily the OP's), and are a pain in the ass to moderate.

[DeadRiser]

Lol people cry troll easily to anybody that doesn't agree with them.
The only people that are 'trolls' on here write their ideas in a negative way but
people still shout troll all the time.
Kind of like IRL when people call eachother racist on stupid disagreements

[Galamantyl]

I am in favor of trolls

I am strongly against trolling

See, I get called a troll for that, but I really do want to see large monstrous trolls in FFXIV that I can fight against, but I'm against people trolling in the FFXIV forums. Where's the harm in that? Why should my post get deleted for voicing a reasonable opinion?

[Malakhim]

See, I get called a troll for that, but I really do want to see large monstrous trolls in FFXIV that I can fight against, but I'm against people trolling in the FFXIV forums. Where's the harm in that? Why should my post get deleted for voicing a reasonable opinion?

I see what you did there...

Meh, the community here on these forums is by far the most immature I've seen in comparison with any other FFXIV forums. Another example is; (for lack of a better term) the people here are typically lame enough to believe that they should make a new thread every time they get some stupid idea, entertaining the thought THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY gives a shit and wants to read it. Nobody cares that you think we shouldn't have 2 names, we should have 1. Seriously, enough is enough. These forums have done nothing but attract stupid people by the masses.

If anything, this should prove my point about the notion of the FFXI community being "more mature" than other MMO communities being nothing but a farce.

To address your other point, problem is that we can't be expected to give feedback when there's nothing new being introduced to give feedback on.

[Akumu]

See, I get called a troll for that, but I really do want to see large monstrous trolls in FFXIV that I can fight against, but I'm against people trolling in the FFXIV forums. Where's the harm in that? Why should my post get deleted for voicing a reasonable opinion?

I can assume that the mod read it once and thought you meant you like the online douches and not the actual mob type of troll.

[Galamantyl]

I can assume that the mod read it once and thought you meant you like the online douches and not the actual mob type of troll.

That can't be right because I said I was strongly against trolling. I was pretty clear. ;D

[Sasse]

There needs to be a bit more give and take in the community.

There are a lot of strong personalities on these forums, and more often than not, it is these same vocal few who like to make themselves heard (no names).

Bottom line, its ok to have a different opinions! The world would be incredibly boring if we all shared the same ideals owned identical outlooks in life. We ALL want the game to improve and be a success (we wouldn't be here otherwise), but the FFXIV community needs to pave the road.

Hear. Feel. Think. (sorry, couldn't resist!)

[wind]

Was it in the thread with possible NM's for the future or mobs in general or just a random thread. If it was a in a random thread then you probably made that remark out of sarcasm or towards someone rather then a 'reasonable opinion'. If it was in a mob/nm thread then ya thats a diff story.

[BadJoeRed]

Meh, the community here on these forums is by far the most immature I've seen in comparison with any other FFXIV forums. Another example is; (for lack of a better term) the people here are typically lame enough to believe that they should make a new thread every time they get some stupid idea, entertaining the thought THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY gives a shit and wants to read it. Nobody cares that you think we shouldn't have 2 names, we should have 1. Seriously, enough is enough. These forums have done nothing but attract stupid people by the masses.

Write something useful for once.

And good, the moderators should suspend twice as many accounts as they do now. Nothing but nonconstructive flaming and bashing for the most part here.

[AdvancedWind]

Meh, the community here on these forums is by far the most immature I've seen in comparison with any other FFXIV forums.

I assume you haven't looked at the gamefaqs Final Fantasy XIV board, then. =P