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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    Here you go, guys. A proper response to Ms. Prell's so-called editorial.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaNWzTL4O8o

    Feel free to respond to it with your own opinions, seeing as how we can't do that on the site anymore because an admin felt the need to shut down the forums due to a few people coming in and ranting. lol (Although not everyone was doing that, but hey, who's counting?)

    Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go back to cleaning and listening to The Gap Band.
    kind? You called me KIND?! Oh boy I think I've just been insulted

    Just a lil thing. If you wanna comment on an article, my advice is not to read it over completely. It wastes air time and tends to lose the interest of listeners before they get to the actual commentary. Just move directly to the commenting by citing the parts that are relevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    you're in for a wild ride, there's going to be a lot more criticism even worse than the Penny Arcade one
    Criticism: very possible. That badly written, borderline insulting, uninformed and misinformative? Not so much, at least not on decent sites.

    There are still some journalists out there that know what professional integrity is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fadigre View Post
    This is why we have betas and these problems are small fry.
    The problem isn't describing small problems, as much as doing whatever she can to make them sound like the end of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    kind? You called me KIND?! Oh boy I think I've just been insulted

    Just a lil thing. If you wanna comment on an article, my advice is not to read it over completely. It wastes air time and tends to lose the interest of listeners. Just move directly to the commenting by citing the parts that are relevant.
    Okay, I'll take that into consideration.

    Yeah, I think I went a bit too far in reading it out loud. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    The problem isn't describing small problems, as much as doing whatever she can to make them sound like the end of the world.
    Yes, we've got pages stating how she's put together an article when she clearly knows nothing and then managed to somehow get the things published. She's making a big deal out of small things simply because she doesn't have any big things in the first place.

    Unless the community would like to gather their pitchforks and march over to her comments box there's nothing we can do about that.

    She still makes valid points about features that could use a look at. There's nothing wrong with that and her negative article only serves to strengthen 2.0's future.
    Kind of ironic in a way.
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    FFXIV economics - 'Stupid and demand'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hachi-Roku View Post
    I'll make you a deal.

    You can have gunblades if we can have Riflebhuj.
    Checka my game-face!
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/93195-Show-your-Miqo-te-!!?p=1288461&viewfull=1#post1288461

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fadigre View Post
    Yes, we've got pages stating how she's put together an article when she clearly knows nothing and then managed to somehow get the things published. She's making a big deal out of small things simply because she doesn't have any big things in the first place.

    Unless the community would like to gather their pitchforks and march over to her comments box there's nothing we can do about that.
    Oh, the community already did. Most without any pitchforks, but armed with informative and well thought out comments. of course someone decided to just use the few with the pitchforks as an excuse to avoid admitting the scarce quality of the preview.

    She still makes valid points about features that could use a look at. There's nothing wrong with that and her negative article only serves to strengthen 2.0's future.
    Kind of ironic in a way.
    Honestly I don't think we need a journalist to point out that kind of minutiae (she can, mind you, but they're hardly a solid base for a preview). That's what we have thousands of beta testers for. The problem isn't that she pointed out some scarcely relevant negative details, but that she wrote them in a way that is highly unprofessional and borderline insulting for the people behind the game, and used them as a blanket to call the game a "pain in the ass", and other scarcely appropriate derogatory terms, which is honestly ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Oh, the community already did. Most without any pitchforks, but armed with informative and well thought out comments. of course someone decided to just use the few with the pitchforks as an excuse to avoid admitting the scarce quality of the preview.
    Why do I feel like this is going to only make readers feel worse about FFXIV after reading her article?
    Just leave her be. I don't think FFXIV will benefit from their players being branded negatively

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    FFXIV economics - 'Stupid and demand'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hachi-Roku View Post
    I'll make you a deal.

    You can have gunblades if we can have Riflebhuj.
    Checka my game-face!
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/93195-Show-your-Miqo-te-!!?p=1288461&viewfull=1#post1288461

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fadigre View Post
    Why do I feel like this is going to only make readers feel worse about FFXIV after reading her article?
    Just leave her be. I don't think FFXIV will benefit from their players being branded negatively
    That's why good writers don't brand readers negatively because they dare criticize what they write. And giving readers a chance for criticism is one of the reasons why one normally has a comment form at the bottom of his articles. Or better that should be one of the reasons.

    Good critics can take criticism as well as they dish it.

    Don't have a solid argument? Replace it with a meme or a motivated picture. Classic.
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