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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Oh no, absolutely not. That article wasn't taken from the alpha, but from a the media tour Yoshida & co had in a few cities around the world. They had an embargo, but no NDA, and the embargo expired two days ago.

    On that front everything's absolutely kosher.

    Oh, ok. I wasn't absolutely sure when she officially wrote it. It definitely seems rushed and biased as all hell. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    Oh, ok. I wasn't absolutely sure when she officially wrote it. It definitely seems rushed and biased as all hell. lol
    I personally would be almost ok with the bias: I find it rather appalling, but there are a ton of journalists nowadays that don't care to show their bias for or against this game and no one is ever 100% unbiased. I'm not, nor anyone else is, and whoever will tell you he has absolutely no bias knowingly lies. Even if in this case it goes a tad overboard, it may be unintentional.

    What I consider unacceptable is the derogatory wording all over the place: "Pain in the ass", "half assed" and so forth, not to mention the mockery of the Final Fantasy XIV title. That's really borderline insulting towards the development team, and worthy of the worst forum flamebait. And no, that kind of wording can't be unintentional.

    Besides, If there's really one team that has absolutely nothing to do with the idea of "half assed", that's the one led by Yoshida. The man and his minions have earned my full respect by holding nothing back in their work on this game.
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    Dashing our hopes

    DASHING OUR HOPES

    and smashing our pride

    this story has us on the ropes

    /sarcasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayto View Post
    Next up, this guy.

    No seriously if this guy did a review on this game, he'd end all of you. Period. Be damn greatful he didn't.
    Wha...? He was at the event and gave an almost glowing account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkhamNative View Post
    Wha...? He was at the event and gave an almost glowing account.
    That's not him

    he's not a journalist, but a comedian that makes a living ripping games (even good ones) a new one, and he hates JRPGs guts. Some find him funny. Some even take him seriously. Personally I don't on both accounts.
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    You guys sure reacted immaturely to this article. way to encourage the stereotype about rabid Final Fantasy fanboys who can't accept any criticism about their precious games.

    You should get used to ARR getting criticism. it will become increasingly common with the NDA being lifted. especially since it's a subscription MMORPG which doesn't really offer any new features.

    I don't think the writer of that article said anything too extreme or biased, and I'm not sure why so many of you are accusing of her "GW2 fangirl" because she made a GW2 comparison. the FATE system does remind me of GW2 as well (a game that I dropped after 1 day of playing).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    You guys sure reacted immaturely to this article. way to encourage the stereotype about rabid Final Fantasy fanboys who can't accept any criticism about their precious games.

    You should get used to ARR getting criticism. it will become increasingly common with the NDA being lifted. especially since it's a subscription MMORPG which doesn't really offer any new features.
    Criticism can and should be given and received. Are you perchance saying that critics should be immune from being criticized themselves?

    There's nothing "immature" on offering criticism on a bad job, and people that want to be critics simply need to learn to take it as well as they dish it. And Kuchera is well known for dishing *very* liberally.

    I don't think the writer of that article said anything too extreme or biased, and I'm not sure why so many of you are accusing of her "GW2 fangirl" because she made a GW2 comparison. the FATE system does remind me of GW2 as well (a game that I dropped after 1 day of playing).
    Aside from the fact that using a comparison with another game is proof of weak journalism, especially for a preview (as you're comparing a finished product with one that's going to be long into production), there's a large difference between a comparison and a mockery.

    Writing "Final Guild Fantasy Wars XIV-2" implies that the whole game is pretty much copied from the other, which is absolutely laughable and disrespectful, and it's the typical mockery you'd see written by a forum troll, not by a supposedly professional journalist on a well known website.

    Besides she openly writes *as it was fact* that FATE is copied from GW2, which is a rather large sign of incompetence, since we all know it's been inspired from Warhammer Online, as Yoshida openly admits.

    Ultimately she's very free to criticize the game, but in turn everyone else should be just as free to criticize her own work. No one is immune from criticism.

    And mind you, the actual writer of the article has been decently cool about the criticism received. At the very least open to a dialogue. It's her senior editor that went all over the place acting like we killed his cat, which makes the whole matter even more ludicrous.
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    I'm not sure how comparing it to GW2 is weak journalism at all. the system screams GW2. I think not mentioning it would be weak journalism.

    and it's not unfair to compare them either. Guild Wars 2 is no more of a finished product than FFXIV. both were sold and will be updated over time. actually FFXIV was sold long before GW2. I'm not sure why you think 2.0 should be exempt from this kind of criticism.

    I'm sure you have no problem with poorly written articles which portray ARR as amazing and totally ignore its flaws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    I'm not sure how comparing it to GW2 is weak journalism at all. the system screams GW2. I think not mentioning it would be weak journalism.

    and it's not unfair to compare them either. Guild Wars 2 is no more of a finished product than FFXIV. both were sold and will be updated over time. actually FFXIV was sold long before GW2. I'm not sure why you think 2.0 should be exempt from this kind of criticism.

    I'm sure you have no problem with poorly written articles which portray ARR as amazing and totally ignore its flaws.
    If 2.0 was an evolution or update or whatnot of 1.0, then perhaps, but it's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    You guys sure reacted immaturely to this article. way to encourage the stereotype about rabid Final Fantasy fanboys who can't accept any criticism about their precious games.
    as opposed to the stereotype of gw2 fanboys/girls who compare everything to gw2 as if it's some kind of revolutionary masterpiece, and can't accept criticism about their precious game all the same? how about all those flaws the GW2heads are happy to ignore?

    okay then!
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