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    Agree, OP, succinctly put. IMHO if one finds it "weird" to have a certain type of race with both genders playable, it is probably due to gender stereotypes, homophobia of some sort, and/or sexism.

    With Viera as an example: bunny ears are often associated with beautiful, enticing young women that are unashamedly sexually appealing. If one finds that untroubling, but replacing "women" with "men" in that description makes it offensive or "weird", I believe there is a problem. Similarly, making a big, weird looking lizard race male-only sends a negative message that visible, obvious physical strength and being unattractive is only acceptable for males.

    Sorry for the mini rant, it is a pet peeve of mine when only female characters are sexy-fied while only male characters are big and unattractive because of such (not) wonderful reasons as: "eww, who wants to look at that" or "dude, that would be so gay". Single gender races are often just an extreme manifestation of this attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleur View Post
    Agree, OP, succinctly put. IMHO if one finds it "weird" to have a certain type of race with both genders playable, it is probably due to gender stereotypes, homophobia of some sort, and/or sexism.

    With Viera as an example: bunny ears are often associated with beautiful, enticing young women that are unashamedly sexually appealing. If one finds that untroubling, but replacing "women" with "men" in that description makes it offensive or "weird", I believe there is a problem. Similarly, making a big, weird looking lizard race male-only sends a negative message that visible, obvious physical strength and being unattractive is only acceptable for males.

    Sorry for the mini rant, it is a pet peeve of mine when only female characters are sexy-fied while only male characters are big and unattractive because of such (not) wonderful reasons as: "eww, who wants to look at that" or "dude, that would be so gay". Single gender races are often just an extreme manifestation of this attitude.
    This, couldn't have said it better. ^^

    Also I am against single-sex races for the stated reasons.

    I may lack the knowledge about Japanese tastes but I really don't see why male vieras aren't possible. As pointed out, it would probably be like male miqotes only with bunny features. I find the artworks posted in this thread pretty convincing. Normally cat girls and boys can have this sexual notion too in Japanese culture (mostly cat girls but also possible for cat boys. E.g. loveless --> very androgyne (not that this is a bad thing )). However the devs pulled them off in a masculine way. If they want(ed) to they can/could do the same about male vieras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleur View Post
    Agree, OP, succinctly put. IMHO if one finds it "weird" to have a certain type of race with both genders playable, it is probably due to gender stereotypes, homophobia of some sort, and/or sexism.

    With Viera as an example: bunny ears are often associated with beautiful, enticing young women that are unashamedly sexually appealing. If one finds that untroubling, but replacing "women" with "men" in that description makes it offensive or "weird", I believe there is a problem. Similarly, making a big, weird looking lizard race male-only sends a negative message that visible, obvious physical strength and being unattractive is only acceptable for males.

    Sorry for the mini rant, it is a pet peeve of mine when only female characters are sexy-fied while only male characters are big and unattractive because of such (not) wonderful reasons as: "eww, who wants to look at that" or "dude, that would be so gay". Single gender races are often just an extreme manifestation of this attitude.
    I dont know where that stereotype on men even came from? Just go to google and type in male model and theres thousands of pictures of luscious sexy men >
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