Fishing in ARR

[lvicious]

Having fished in ffxi for all those years and being a mod on a dol site since 14 came out.. it is really just a meh moment reading all this fishing info for ARR.

I thought 1.0 was lame for fishing. Gear didn't matter, fish were all easy to catch.. there was nothing going on with the guild except the worthless marks. Basically nothing like they had in 11. I wanted them to improve upon 11 and 1.0 and take it even further to something that would make us dol players very happy.

To me it sounds more like actual fishing is going to be an automated snooze fest and they'll have some contest or tournaments for the "sport" part of it like it's a freakin Bassmasters Classic now.

I wanted that part though badly. It's like taking the Selbina contest a huge step further but don't do away with the enjoyment of fishing. What is this select a fishing pole stuff for specific water? That has the sound of an automated list where we'll choose from a pole they offer us for that specific water or are they expecting us to have multiple poles on hand? C'mon man..

If they don't want us to think the worst then don't give out details like this. I know it's hard to fathom but there are countless players who love DoL. who love fishing, botany,mining but especially fishing. Here is hoping for the best but a little anger doesn't hurt anything in fact I think it helps because maybe they'll realize they need to make things more clear or maybe the direction they are going in isn't the right one.

I want contests, I want end game rods to work towards like the ebisu and not the lame and useless Luminary, I want fishing gear/armor, goals to work towards like we had in 11 with guild points and then take all that and go a huge step further with things we never imagined and make us say oh wow this is gonna be awesome not wtf are they thinking?

We shall see..

[LlenCoram]

Alright guys my reference to Answers earlier inspired me, so here you go. This is for fun, not for serious discussion. Also please don't bother telling me I have no life, I already know.

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I cast my line, tell us why must we wonder.
Release your thoughts, for the currents drag us under.
My arms grow tired, the sea’s bounty we plunder.
How can we carry on? The boat’s about to go under.

To all of my fishies, teeming spawn in the rivers,
To all of my fishies, which the deep wells deliver,
The bait yearns for bites, and the lines a strong caster.
O Immortal Lu Shang, look to those who walk after.

Shining is the Sea’s light of justice.
Ever flows the Sea’s well of purpose.
Fish free! Fish free! Fish free…
The Sea’s alive, so believe…

Ocean (see) sunshade (hat) lunchbox (snack) tackle (box)
Hooking (bait) casting (line) waiting (long) patience (bored)
Napping (snore) tugging (wake) dropping (rod) spilling (drink)
Grabbing (rod) tangle (line) winding (reel) taking (line)
Losing (line) gaining (line) taut (line) almost (fish)
Catching (fish) yes! (fish) inventory! Fish on!

Now open your eyes while our plight is repeated.
Still deaf to our cries, lost in hope we lie defeated.
Our spears have been broken, and our lures have been taken.
For the sins of the past, we fear our future forsaken.

Forums filled with snark, these trials dissuade us not.
Anxious posts, filled with speculation, betray our thoughts.
Mired by a plague of doubt, the Fishers, we mourn.
Trolls bind all we hold to a memory of scorn.
Tell us why, given rods, we must leave our cod? The system is flawed!

Gather (fish) selling (crabs) catching (eels) cooking (meals)
Suntan (lines) water (salt) sunrise (yawn) sunset (yawn)
Marshes (bogs) swampland (mires) coastlines (bluffs) inlets (coves)
Answer (us) Answer (please) Answer together!

The Deep is a riddle, bearing bounty and fortunes,
But possessing a power to make us all orphans:
In one fleeting moment, from the Sea doth fish flow;
Yet in one fleeting moment, now the tempest doth blow—
In the same fleeting moment, thou must sink, swim, and flow.

Having fished in ffxi for all those years and being a mod on a dol site since 14 came out.. it is really just a meh moment reading all this fishing info for ARR.

I thought 1.0 was lame for fishing. Gear didn't matter, fish were all easy to catch.. there was nothing going on with the guild except the worthless marks. Basically nothing like they had in 11. I wanted them to improve upon 11 and 1.0 and take it even further to something that would make us dol players very happy.

To me it sounds more like actual fishing is going to be an automated snooze fest and they'll have some contest or tournaments for the "sport" part of it like it's a freakin Bassmasters Classic now.

I wanted that part though badly. It's like taking the Selbina contest a huge step further but don't do away with the enjoyment of fishing. What is this select a fishing pole stuff for specific water? That has the sound of an automated list where we'll choose from a pole they offer us for that specific water or are they expecting us to have multiple poles on hand? C'mon man..

If they don't want us to think the worst then don't give out details like this. I know it's hard to fathom but there are countless players who love DoL. who love fishing, botany,mining but especially fishing. Here is hoping for the best but a little anger doesn't hurt anything in fact I think it helps because maybe they'll realize they need to make things more clear or maybe the direction they are going in isn't the right one.

I want contests, I want end game rods to work towards like the ebisu and not the lame and useless Luminary, I want fishing gear/armor, goals to work towards like we had in 11 with guild points and then take all that and go a huge step further with things we never imagined and make us say oh wow this is gonna be awesome not wtf are they thinking?

We shall see..

A million times this.

[Punainen]

:C Fishing was my favorite gathering class... One of my overall favorite things to do in the game (I even have an alt dedicated to fishing).... I was likewise extremely disappointed to hear that apparently fishing has NO player involvement anymore. I could just throw out my line and leave the computer? Just throw out the line and read a book?? No, I wanna feel like I'm fishing!! The only reason you couldn't talk to people before was because they had an annoying timer that made you auto-lose your fish if you waited even 5 seconds between actions. All they'd need to do is remove THAT, and people would be able to talk to eachother AND be involved in fishing.

[lvicious]

lol heck if this is how it's going to be then at least give me the option of chartering a deep sea fishing boat trip with a cooler full of beer and a couple of hot chicks Mithra in bikinis so I can reel in dinner and get drunk and a tan.

[Nuinn]

lol heck if this is how it's going to be then at least give me the option of chartering a deep sea fishing boat trip with a cooler full of beer and a couple of hot chicks Mithra in bikinis so I can reel in dinner and get drunk and a tan.

!!! [a wild Leviathan appears] !!!

[Fatestorm]

All of this aside, this really is an EXCELLENT suggestion. I would LOVE if they would be able to implement a 'buy your own personal sailboat' system for fishers. (I know this suggestion has come up before.) This would be amazing, wouldn't it? Maybe they could implement a new zone area called "Deep Sea" or something where rare and valuable fish could be caught. Regular fishers could buy passage on an npc boat, but it would only last so long (30 minutes per ticket or whatever). People with their own sailboats could stay out as long as they want... and it would not be an instanced zone so we could all /say and /shout to each other while we fish...

/oneday...

[Nix]

All of this aside, this really is an EXCELLENT suggestion. I would LOVE if they would be able to implement a 'buy your own personal sailboat' system for fishers. (I know this suggestion has come up before.) This would be amazing, wouldn't it? Maybe they could implement a new zone area called "Deep Sea" or something where rare and valuable fish could be caught. Regular fishers could buy passage on an npc boat, but it would only last so long (30 minutes per ticket or whatever). People with their own sailboats could stay out as long as they want... and it would not be an instanced zone so we could all /say and /shout to each other while we fish...

/oneday...

I LOVE this idea!!

[LlenCoram]

Yeah, I'd sink my money into a sailboat so fast the economy would feel it for years.

[Nix]

Yeah, I'd sink my money into a sailboat so fast the economy would feel it for years.

XD Ditto!
I'd like to name my tiny boat the "Super Go-Go Buster"

[Orophin]

A bunch of my friends have been reassuring me, saying that no Japanese developer would ever put in a system like this, no game developer would put in a system like this due to how easy it would be to bot, that "actions" probably refers to gathering skills, that the combination of knowing what rod and what bait to use will be the complexity, but I'm still really worried. I'd love to have a dev response in here instead of having to wait till bloody april to get my answer.

Sad thing is, if the information from the Massively article is true then fish won't have any economic bearing and it won't matter if people botted or not.

I guess we'll just have to "Please look forward to it" and see how things pan out.

And for all the people who say how random fishing was in 1.0, I have a spreadsheet that says otherwise. (or you could just look on mooglebox)