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  1. #261
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    Fadedhost's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    I just don't get it, MMORPG stands for Massive Multiplayer Role Playing Game. Some people want the game to base around solo play, ( which was mostly 1.0 and at some points did get frustrating to just do everything by myself.)

    Do they even know what an MMO is? This is just a little gripe that I been having everytime the subject arises.

    Going to get bread now to make Sausage Sandwiches!

    Example:



    Source: http://www.facebook.com/FinalFantasyXIV?fref=ts

    A little change in my stance but still needs Grouping:



    There needs to be an equal balance of content for both solo and party.
    Why do people want to be alone in real life? I guess it differs person to person but some people find it fun to solo things that most people group up to accomplish. That is ONE of many reasons why I love FFXI but like I said that is just me.
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  2. #262
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    yeah i dont get people who cry about grouping up, like the OP (and the genre) said this is a MMO..

    i can understand players looking down on others and such cause of gear, i had that problem, i spent time on it.. got the gear i need, then i cant be left out because of that..

    its not very hard being social ingame.. your sitting in your chair, theres a chat log.. just type (dont type nonsense though) if someone replys in a negative nature dont get butthurt , move on to the next person, theres gotta be 3 good players for every A-hole ingame, its not a big deal, and if you dont know anyone ingame, respond to shouts youll meet good peeps try to get in their LS, thats it

    wish ppl who complain about grouping up would use their brains, its nice to have solo play in the game at some parts, but the bigger picture should always be about Group play.
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  3. #263
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizuko_Hakupac View Post
    yeah i dont get people who cry about grouping up, like the OP (and the genre) said this is a MMO..

    i can understand players looking down on others and such cause of gear, i had that problem, i spent time on it.. got the gear i need, then i cant be left out because of that..

    its not very hard being social ingame.. your sitting in your chair, theres a chat log.. just type (dont type nonsense though) if someone replys in a negative nature dont get butthurt , move on to the next person, theres gotta be 3 good players for every A-hole ingame, its not a big deal, and if you dont know anyone ingame, respond to shouts youll meet good peeps try to get in their LS, thats it

    wish ppl who complain about grouping up would use their brains, its nice to have solo play in the game at some parts, but the bigger picture should always be about Group play.
    This is not about people who complain about grouping why don't you use your brain.
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  4. #264
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fadedhost View Post
    This is not about people who complain about grouping why don't you use your brain.
    "I just don't get it, MMORPG stands for Massive Multiplayer Role Playing Game. Some people want the game to base around solo play"

    are you an idiot? or did i hurt your feelings? anyway thats the line OP wrote.. thats what im talking about..

    so use your brain before you tell me to use my brain.. before i told others to use their brains, hah! no but yeah.

    dont get so butthurt next time jeez, the thread dosent revolve around your opinions, and even i went off topic which i dont think i did, there ARE people actually like the ones i talked about, can you deny that?

    whose this guy..
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  5. #265
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    It does seem to totally defeat the purpose.
    I mean if you want something focused on solo but allows for online multilayer, try Monster Hunter or Borderlands. The MMO genre seems wasted on solo focus.
    This assumes progression beyond leveling would be solo-focused, which any real moderate will tell you is a bad idea. I don't think anyone is asking for solo raids. Leveling should be flexible enough that you can reasonably progress while soloing, with partying running dungeons putting you ahead of the rest.

    Story-relevant stuff should be for the most part solo. It builds up your character as someone who can hold their own in the world, gives the devs and animators the opportunity to make you look heroic and cool, and prevents the cockblocks we saw in 1.0. Always Bet on Black should not have been this arduous thing for BLMs. Then there was my foray with Parley on High Ground, where it took me forever to get a group for.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  6. #266
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    My brother likes to play MMOs solo mostly, not very social and or doesn't like to rely on others for anything worthwhile and I think thats 100% fine. Groups can suck sometimes, esp when you get a jerk or two. Get help when you want/need, solo the rest, problem solved :P
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  7. #267
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosho View Post
    My brother likes to play MMOs solo mostly, not very social and or doesn't like to rely on others for anything worthwhile and I think thats 100% fine. Groups can suck sometimes, esp when you get a jerk or two. Get help when you want/need, solo the rest, problem solved :P


    problem solved for you, mmo's completely destroyed for others. yaaay.
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  8. #268
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    My personal experience is that in the MMOs that forced grouping, the community was better, but that might also be because most of the MMOs that forced grouping were niche market games pre-WoW, where having 100k subscribers was considered a lot ..

    I like grouping, but it's not always possible to do so because of time constraints, or because you just get unlucky and not get invited or whatever other reason. In those cases it's nice to have solo options. I do (strongly) believe though, that not everything should be obtainable through solo play, or at the very least not easily obtainable.
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  9. #269
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    Quote Originally Posted by strallaalaa View Post
    problem solved for you, mmo's completely destroyed for others. yaaay.
    "This lone stranger is farming beastman coins in Natalan by HIMSELF!? My 25-man dungeon run immersion is RUINED!!!"
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  10. #270
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    I learned in my mmorpg life that you can feel more lonely in a party then when you play solo.

    Party for me means, talking with each other, having fun, adventure together, most parties I've been in are just about leveling as quickly as possible, no time for chatting.

    And when people talk they love to show how great they are with their awesome gear, or how many jobs they got.
    I am playing for fun, and when someone is just proud to finally got something they worked hard for, I am happy for them, but when they just do it to show off, it annoys me a lot.

    And then the greed, when I go in dungeons all party members may have the great loot, I don't care about the loot, if that makes them happy, well you may have it, I am there for fun, not for the loot. I seen a lot of parties brake up because of greed reasons.
    I always feel joy inside me when I notice people in the party are happy for each other when 1 of them got a great piece or something. A good party is when everyone cheers for each other.

    Actually only a few parties were really fun for me in the 14 years I have played mmorpgs, most of them were with people from linkshells/guilds. Only a few of them were with nice strangers.

    I hope to see more social people in ARR, who play for fun, and don't take the game too serious.
    People who enjoy to talk and to joke around.

    Party play doesn't equal a social game to me, not anymore...
    I am usually more social when I solo then when I am in a group.

    Forced party play won't work for me, I only want to play with people who want to party.

    I do know I will get tired of an mmorpg quickly when I solo most of the time, so I do need party play, to enjoy a mmorpg.
    But I do believe solo should be possible.
    Party must be a choice.
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