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    Quote Originally Posted by Lirion View Post
    That's exactly my point, you are told you're the most important dude in the story yet the cutscenes always put you in the corner while others take the whole screentime. And that makes me feel unimportant. The jobs and the later cutscenes that came when Yoshi took over somewhat fixed this so hopefully what I experienced was a thing of the past along with Tanaka.

    And I did recognize the final cutscene where everyone praise you in my post that you replied to.
    I know you recognized it, but it just didn't feel like you gave it enough credit.

    It's true, the other characters talk a lot while you remain silent, yes. But it really doesn't make me feel any less important. In my opinion, it's kind of like the other characters are narrating your story. When they have something to say, it's usually about how there's a threat and only you can defeat it, or you're the threat standing between them and world domination, or you're the one who will determine the fate of the world in one way or another. Silent though your character may be, the truth is, it's all about you you you. You are, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the most important person in Eorzea. And the game wastes no effort making sure you understand that. I really don't see how the lack of dialogue makes this any less so. You're the silent protagonist. You don't have to talk the talk, because you walk the walk. You don't bark, you bite. As the hero, you really don't have to waste time with words, because your actions do the talking and are more than efficient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    I know you recognized it, but it just didn't feel like you gave it enough credit.

    It's true, the other characters talk a lot while you remain silent, yes. But it really doesn't make me feel any less important. In my opinion, it's kind of like the other characters are narrating your story. When they have something to say, it's usually about how there's a threat and only you can defeat it, or you're the threat standing between them and world domination, or you're the one who will determine the fate of the world in one way or another. Silent though your character may be, the truth is, it's all about you you you. You are, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the most important person in Eorzea. And the game wastes no effort making sure you understand that. I really don't see how the lack of dialogue makes this any less so. You're the silent protagonist. You don't have to talk the talk, because you walk the walk. You don't bark, you bite. As the hero, you really don't have to waste time with words, because your actions do the talking and are more than efficient.
    I think we are talking about different things here, I don't care if my character speaks or not, he can be mute and have someone speak for him. I just want our characters to have more presence in the cut scenes. Let's take the Dragoon cut scene when you're about to fight the final boss. Your character steps up and protect the guy you came with, I want more of that, a lot more of that. That made me feel, dear I say it, proud of my character.

    The video I linked to in my first post have something I really don't like, you have made all your way there then when Gaius shows up you stand there like a paralyzed kid while the other people comes and saves you and have this epic fight scene. Now that one was from Tanaka time and maybe they wanted to show that Gaius is really strong and you're not supposed to beat him yet but then there are better ways to show that without making you look like a useless scared little child. This made me feel like my character was useless and forgot how to fight.

    I would have much rather see us fight Gaius there and then get beat up, that would at least give our character a little more presence in the cut scene and it would make Gaius look too strong for you at this time.

    But having the story keep telling me I'm this hero and then in the cut scenes have me take the backseat does not work for me. Others might be able to overlook it but I can't. But like I said, the later stuff that came once Yoshi took over do give our characters a little more screentime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lirion View Post
    I think we are talking about different things here, I don't care if my character speaks or not, he can be mute and have someone speak for him. I just want our characters to a more presence in the cut scenes. Let's take the Dragoon cut scene when you're about to fight the final boss. Your character steps up and protect the guy you came with, I want more of that, a lot more of that. That made me feel, dear I say it, proud of my character.

    The video I linked to in my first post have something I really don't like, you have made all your way there then when Gaius shows up you stand there like a paralyzed kid while the other people comes and saves you and have this epic fight scene. Now that one was from Tanaka time and maybe they wanted to show that Gaius is really strong and you're not supposed to beat him yet but then there are better ways to show that without making you look like a useless scared little child. This made me feel like my character was useless and forgot how to fight.

    I would have much rather see us fight Gaius there and then get beat up, that would at least give our character a little more presence in the cut scene and it would make Gaius look too strong for you at this time.

    But having the story keep telling me I'm this hero and then in the cut scenes have me take the backseat does not work for me. Others might be able to overlook it but I can't. But like I said, the later stuff that came once Yoshi took over do give our characters a little more screentime.
    I think that scene with Gaius was indeed to show that Gaius was extremely powerful. I found it rather intriguing myself, as it showed that as badass as my character may be, she is not the strongest warrior out there. At least not yet. To tell you the truth, it was refreshing to me to see my character so easily overcome by an enemy. It gives her something to work towards. She will indeed have to deal with Gaius sometime in the future. But she's not yet ready. If they had made her tougher than or on equal footing with Gaius to begin with, it would have been somewhat boring to me. "Okay, yeah sure, my character is the end all, be all on this game. Look, she so pwnage." (roll eyes) lol No, I actually like the fact that she was so easily curbstomped by Gaius. It gives a realistic taste to the situation, humanizing your character.

    While it might have been nice to see her at least try to take on Gaius, it does actually make sense that one shot knocked her out. One shot to the back, no less. Not only does that serve to show that Gaius is stronger than you, it also serves to show that he has no honor. Heck, he was even willing to kill my character while she lay face down on the ground! That's not the actions of a proper knight or warrior, that's the actions of a tyrant and coward. So, you see, that scene served to reveal quite a bit about both you and Gaius. It revealed how vulnerable your character can be (especially from a sneak attack from the back), how powerful and devoid of honor your enemy is, and sets the stage for an inevitable showdown between yourself and Gaius, where it likely won't be as easy to take your character down as it was before. It also shows that, while powerful you are, no one man is an army and even the greatest heroes need a helping hand sometimes.

    But hey, it's just how I feel. I like how they did that cutscene. And I also liked how the other characters spoke whilst I listened. It set up the story, it helped you learn about the lore of the other characters, it helped you learn about yourself. It set up your story and established your relationship to the NPCs quite nicely. It made me feel important without having to say a word. The NPCs did the talking. But what was important was the action. And there WAS no action without me. Just my two cents.
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