Quote Originally Posted by Forgo View Post
Not really no cause FFXI did great w/o to start with...but yes it was added later only to faded almost away...so Pvp is not a must for MMO'S, other wise every MMO, even Hello Kitty online (why the hell did i say that one? >.>) would have pvp...
Yeah XI did well cuz 11 years MMOs where for niche players only...

You forgot that ARR it's supposed to compete vs the modern MMOs (Yoshida said this many time) ,

and guess what? Every modern (and not..) MMOs have PvP ...

Another thing, i don't care about PvP (i'm mostly a PVE player) but i care for the game success :/