New Blog post "Interview with Director/Producer"

[Dragonheart]

I'm starting to wonder if the people who are say "PvP isn't important" hang out with any other MMO players besides FFMMO players... >.>

I've gotten to meet some great MMO players who lead large groups in GW2, and other games. PvP is a HUGE deal for them. They've never played FFXI or FFXIV, but they've all (well both... I only know two of them IRL) told me "No PvP, No deal" when I invited them to beta.

I hope when I e-mail them the news about FFXIV PvP when its released they'll at least LOOK at it?! \o.O/

This.. Without offenses but the major player base in this forum just played XI-XIV , and doesn't know the importance (commercial speaking) of PvP in nowadays MMO...

[Ptolemy]

This.. Without offenses but the major player base in this forum just played XI-XIV , and doesn't know the importance (commercial speaking) of PvP in nowadays MMO...

players who think "this game can't live without pvp" aren't needed here


Edited: i welcome pvp but not to the point where pve suffers tremendously because of gear or abilities being nerfed for being "op"

it should be like how pvp was added in XI

"this game can't live without pvp" players should stay the hell away

[Seirra_Lanzce]

players who think "this game can't live without pvp" aren't needed here


Edited: i welcome pvp but not to the point where pve suffers tremendously because of gear or abilities being nerfed for being "op"

it should be like how pvp was added in XI

And FFXIV will forever be stained by the world and media, not what SE have in mind if going by that mind set of yours.

[Ptolemy]

And FFXIV will forever be stained by the world and media, not what SE have in mind if going by that mind set of yours.

FFXIV will always be stained because of 1.0, not because of this "mindset", it won't recover what has been lost, it can only improve the image a bit but going far as ruining what made FFXI last so long (PVE) won't be as good as the profits being "standard (PVP/PVE)" will bring


i don't really care either way, i'll play ffxiv as i always did, i liked ffxiv before in 1.0 and i will like 2.0 just as much but people who push for changes just because of the stupid belief of "this game can't live without so&so" should really stay away

[HiirNoivl]

This.. Without offenses but the major player base in this forum just played XI-XIV , and doesn't know the importance (commercial speaking) of PvP in nowadays MMO...

Yeah... well, judging by the blog post hopefully the American non-FF audience got their point across.

Don't get me wrong, I love PvE and it's my favorite thing to do in a game. Having great PvE battles is essential. But I also play PvP a lot... It's a great form of content and I can see why some people like it and even devote themselves to it. The numbers of people who enjoy PvP more than PvE are pretty large and there is no reason to ignore this audience. Just none.

I would love to play PvP with my PvP loving friends IRL.

[Silversnow]

This.. Without offenses but the major player base in this forum just played XI-XIV , and doesn't know the importance (commercial speaking) of PvP in nowadays MMO...

The problem with pvp is that there isn't a single mmo out that pvp hasn't caused detrimental changes to pve. Mmo forums are filled with after the fact apologies by devs who at first promised that pvp would have no impact.

XI has pvp yet tons of people have yet to flock to that game specifically for its pvp so those that say its a MUST are being a bit exaggerated in its importance. Yoshi may like pvp but he can't just slam it into the game and make it a pillar of the game without killing the pve that makes final fantasy what it is. We will get it but its not going to satisfy any "hardcore" pvpers in a way that they won't complain very vocally about.

Don't mind pvp but it has this nasty habit of feature creeps that end up ruining the pve. Worst part is that they don't seem to care about that and want shoulder in more pve changes for the sake of pvp.

[HiirNoivl]

The problem with pvp is that there isn't a single mmo out that pvp hasn't caused detrimental changes to pve. Mmo forums are filled with after the fact apologies by devs who at first promised that pvp would have no impact.

Wait what? Why would anyone make PvP have no impact on the game? No matter what you introduce to the game it's going to have an impact. If you introduce something that has no impact, then why waste development time on it? And There's no game with effective PvP that didn't ruin PvE? Then what games are people playing RN? I know that the game I'm currently playing allows you to accept challenges from individuals and get winnings (or not if no wagers are placed) on a completely Open World basis and I think it's awesome. The entire ranking system is based on a running tally of who does better at the game... so even the PvE is PvP.

Don't mind pvp but it has this nasty habit of feature creeps that end up ruining the pve. Worst part is that they don't seem to care about that and want shoulder in more pve changes for the sake of pvp.

It seems like people are so scared that PvP will "nerf" and/or ruin PvE play. It's true that there are ways to do that, but the ways to avoid that are so obvious that you'd have to be a dummy to mess that up. (I'm looking at YOU, GW2) But since PvP has already been announced, then it's already impacting the game, and PvE is already being adapted to it. This ship has sailed, Silversnow.

I would like it to be in the launch because that's where the game's ranking on the Non-FF sites comes from. The ranking doesn't come from patches... it comes from the launch. Once people see that FFXIV has no PvP at launch, the will ignore the game regardless of the other patches. I hope that Yoshi understands this now. People no longer follow FFXIV...

[Silversnow]

While the ship may have sailed it remains to be seen whether its going to slam itself into a reef or make it to its destination. So its not so black and white as that.

[bobbygunz]

While the ship may have sailed it remains to be seen whether its going to slam itself into a reef or make it to its destination. So its not so black and white as that.

Couldn't they just apply a whole new formula to PvP calculations so it would have zero bearing on PvE? I'm sure if they're smart about it, they could figure a way to divide both aspects (PvE and PvP) so they operate in isolation from eachother.

[Klefth]

Couldn't they just apply a whole new formula to PvP calculations so it would have zero bearing on PvE? I'm sure if they're smart about it, they could figure a way to divide both aspects (PvE and PvP) so they operate in isolation from eachother.

That sounds kinda like what they had planned for PvP from the start (they even talked about different sets of abilities altogether), buuut then they went and dumbed down the combat system in favor of PvP, which they wouldn't have needed to do at all if they went with these "different sets of abilities" they talked about originally.

IDK what to believe any more. I just really, really, REALLY hope the combat system won't suck as much as I think it might thanks to a feature that really has no place in here imo. Sad thing is, it's not looking very bright out there so far. At least not from what we saw from the alpha.