βeta tomorrow?! [ 明日? !] One more day?????

[Coyohma]

Well I think that is mostly because after a release people are playing it and not posting on the forums waiting for it.

I'm not talking about the frequency of posts, which I doubt will decrease when ARR goes live. I'm talking about the mentality of the general public.

To be more clear, it's the cries of "omfg I need it now, GOING TO CUT OFF MY ARM IF I CAN'T PLAY TOMORROW," followed by, once they get to play, a predominantly casual mindset and layer after layer of requests to make it more casual.

[Radacci]

I don't get it. Despite my best intentions I played the hell out of 1.0. I would think I'm in that tier that would be excited about any significant news related to the game. And I am. But I don't care if this begins on the 15th, 25th, or next month. It's the first stage of beta, not the release of ARR -and even if it was, how does the exactness of the date affect my life? Or yours?

Oh yes, August 16th would be soo much better than August 30th. Never mind the fact that the first iteration came out nearly three years ago. We can wait three years for a better product, but not a week more!

It's a funny paradox how the general public is so fanatical and passionate about something, but then the tone changes to a far more casual one after the game (or the patch, whatever) is released.

The general public you're talking about, have ADHD, Asperger, Autism etc. So they freak out over schedules not being exact, and they don't have any control.

[Stephen]

I don't get it. Despite my best intentions I played the hell out of 1.0. I would think I'm in that tier that would be excited about any significant news related to the game. And I am. But I don't care if this begins on the 15th, 25th, or next month. It's the first stage of beta, not the release of ARR -and even if it was, how does the exactness of the date affect my life? Or yours?

Oh yes, August 16th would be soo much better than August 30th. Never mind the fact that the first iteration came out nearly three years ago. We can wait three years for a better product, but not a week more!

It's a funny paradox how the general public is so fanatical and passionate about something, but then the tone changes to a far more casual one after the game (or the patch, whatever) is released.

Strange, I would imagine 99% of the people posting on the Lodestone about their anticipation etc are probably Legacy and full-time players. Not sure who you're talking to here but the majority of us probably aren't 'casual'.

Providing things aren't rushed then yes 1,2 or 30 days sooner for beta access is a good thing in my opinion. I am eager to see/test the changes to the game and see old friends in game etc.

To the people who will undoubtedly say that beta is for testing and not playing etc etc I'm also looking forward to beta as I'm going to make damn sure that I feed back as much as possible to SE so that we don't end up with a release like we had for 1.0.

[Rona]

To the people who will undoubtedly say that beta is for testing and not playing etc etc I'm also looking forward to beta as I'm going to make damn sure that I feed back as much as possible to SE so that we don't end up with a release like we had for 1.0.

Please do. It looks like they're listening pretty intently to the feedback this go round. While they obviously can't change everything I believe they're taking it all into consideration.

[Lady]

To the people who will undoubtedly say that beta is for testing and not playing etc etc I'm also looking forward to beta as I'm going to make damn sure that I feed back as much as possible to SE so that we don't end up with a release like we had for 1.0.

Sorry, a car ride is for getting to your destination, it doesn't mean you can't enjoy the scenery along the way.


Just in case my analogy is misunderstood: you can play & test the beta at the same time.

[Radacci]

To the people who will undoubtedly say that beta is for testing and not playing etc etc I'm also looking forward to beta as I'm going to make damn sure that I feed back as much as possible to SE so that we don't end up with a release like we had for 1.0.

That's not possible the biggest reason for 1.0 fail was the absurd unresponsiveness of the game, no tutorials to explain how things worked and such things. New team has already eliminated those things; So if it fails, it will be for other reasons. They have shown time and again their dedication to the project, and changing things according to community wishes. So the chance of the game failing is minimal; though there are still people that aren't even aware of a remake.

[Starlord]

Sorry, a car ride is for getting to your destination, it doesn't mean you can't enjoy the scenery along the way.

When I drive, looking straight you still get to see the scenery, when you make a turn (look left and right) more scenery. Granted you can't sit and stare at it, you still can see the beautiful nature!

[Stephen]

Sorry, a car ride is for getting to your destination, it doesn't mean you can't enjoy the scenery along the way.


Just in case my analogy is misunderstood: you can play & test the beta at the same time.

Agreed, I was just saying that I will be doing both - getting in there before the haters is something I've become accustomed to on the Lodestone as of late.

[Yrusama]

It's a funny paradox how the general public is so fanatical and passionate about something, but then the tone changes to a far more casual one after the game (or the patch, whatever) is released.

It's more that we earnestly want answers. I know I become passionate again when I tell others about something new and cool, but normally once I gain the information I don't spend very long raving about it.

An example is the crafting revamp in 1.0. Between the increased animation speed and the new guaranteed-to-work abilities, I was ecstatic for a good week. No more "oh, maybe you'll get a better success rate, but because of Murphy's Law I'm gonna fail your every move".

[Vilhem]

Patience is a virtue >< Why are people cracking their heads trying to decipher text to nail a specific date? Just wait jesus >.>