Beta before Benchmark?

[Radacci]

Yes, you can. And in this case, they should. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be angry if the game kicked off early with some textures missing or seams showing, but believe me - after the horrible kickoff in 2010, the undeniably bad reception FFXIV got in the medias, SE will work hard to prevent that from happening a second time.

The whole point of creating ARR is to revive a game that got one of the worst reviews in a long time, even if many players did enjoy it (including myself bigtime). In a field with much competition, 'many players' isn't even close to enough. Fail once, you get a second chance. Fail twice... You'll be stuck with those 'many players'.

I've left my share of 'I WANT TO PLAY NOOOW'-posts in the forum already, and I plan on leaving more. But I also realize that they will take the time they need, and I wouldn't want it any other way.

I was simply referring to the benchmark
But there will undoubtedly be bugs etc in Beta version, all phases. If they wanted to get rid of them BEFORE beta start, it would never start. It's unavoidable; but as long as they get rid of blatantly obvious issues, it's fine. But postponing bench/beta/launch for a little texture issue...on a hand of some NPC...don't think so

[YeaniNah]

they might release benchmark during phase1 ... legacy have phase1 while the other have benchmark

[Tonkra]

the benchmark is coming WITH beta ^^

[Leowilde]

Hnnng...! Working as an illustrator in an office, and sitting in front of the monitor all day... I keep checking Lodestone for info every 20 min or so. T_T Sad? Perhaps. Worth it the moment beta-info pops up? Definetly.

[Kirito]

I imagine the benchmark to be released with the beta codes. So that people can see their rating while they wait for the servers go online. I think they will give us the beta codes 2 or 3 days before they start the beta. Everyone just remember that phase 1 and 2 aren't 24 hour long test. I think it will at most be 5-8 hours each day.

[Akira_Tenshi]

2 benchmarks were planned and one was due to release shortly before beta and another one which allowed you to create a character later on.

[DoctorMog]

Honestly, benchmark should have been a teaser for beta, not the other way around.

A large part of this community is already going to be in beta and the benchmark will just be

"meh, we already saw the graphics and know how it runs now"

So the benchmark will only be for people not selected for beta. Which is ok, but it would have been better as a teaser for everyone. Instead of just the people not selected for beta.

[Laume]

Honestly, benchmark should have been a teaser for beta, not the other way around.

A large part of this community is already going to be in beta and the benchmark will just be

"meh, we already saw the graphics and know how it runs now"

So the benchmark will only be for people not selected for beta. Which is ok, but it would have been better as a teaser for everyone. Instead of just the people not selected for beta.

Kind of agree and kind of don't. From a technical stand point, any time you change tech specs of a program (especially if it's lower than the previous version), you always want to put out a benchmark as a small program for people to see what machines will run fine without the install time (which does take a long time).

On, the other hand, as you said, the benchmark can be used as a valuable teaser and would have been better for everyone and not just those selected. I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt though and say that they probably can't release an accurate benchmark until they accurately know how the current game plays. I have no evidence to back this up, it's just me giving them the benefit of the doubt.

[DoctorMog]

Kind of agree and kind of don't. From a technical stand point, any time you change tech specs of a program (especially if it's lower than the previous version), you always want to put out a benchmark as a small program for people to see what machines will run fine without the install time (which does take a long time).

On, the other hand, as you said, the benchmark can be used as a valuable teaser and would have been better for everyone and not just those selected. I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt though and say that they probably can't release an accurate benchmark until they accurately know how the current game plays. I have no evidence to back this up, it's just me giving them the benefit of the doubt.

THe benchmark will probably be released closer to the final build after tuning is done. They will probably have options for different settings as well.

Isn't that the purpose of delivering us 2 benchmarks?

One now, teaser, general specs example, graphics showcase, for those not in beta,

One later, finely tuned, closely matching the game requirements for actual benchmarking purposes.

[kazaran]

THe benchmark will probably be released closer to the final build after tuning is done. They will probably have options for different settings as well.