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    fusional's Avatar
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    Veto Bahamut
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    Really, even with chat, a group can lose horribly
    with godlike gear people can lose. with the most skilled players in the universe, things can still go wrong. does this mean gear doesn't help? does this mean having skill doesn't matter? so what's your point? voice chat is the same. it increases the potential for success by giving the potential for faster, more effective communication. why would anyone even try to argue against that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    I've seen BG's Darnus video and you all say exactly the same things as I do, except I type it: "adjust" "up" "down" "now." It's hardly a barrier between the "dead serious" and the apparently not-so-serious, since I consider Darnus a prime example of environmental hazards, movement elements and general difficulty.

    I don't think there's anything wrong with voice chat, but it's not the critical game element you're making it out to be.
    oh jesus christ here we go again. "whatever you're no different, it's pretty much the same for us"

    that's fine, though. don't consider all the variables in your argument. don't see it objectively. argue from a position of bias because you don't like voice chat. that's cool. i'm not even opening this can of worms.
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    Last edited by fusional; 02-12-2013 at 02:32 AM.

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    Almalexia's Avatar
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    Almalexia Indoril
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    no, it's looking realistically at an ever-increasing requirement for timing and coordination in battle content with an ever-increasing degree of environmental hazards, movement elements and general difficulty. fights in modern MMOs aren't like fights in XI. you generally can't just read chat and react accordingly strictly on your own.
    I've seen BG's Darnus video and you all say exactly the same things as I do, except I type it: "adjust" "up" "down" "now." It's hardly a barrier between the "dead serious" and the apparently not-so-serious, since I consider Darnus a prime example of environmental hazards, movement elements and general difficulty.

    I don't think there's anything wrong with voice chat, but it's not the critical game element you're making it out to be.
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    Last edited by Almalexia; 02-12-2013 at 02:22 AM.

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    Technyze Deepforces
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    Personally I feel voice chat can be much more than just a tool for raiding. It can enhance the gameplay and make it more fun, my linkshell and I had a lot of great timers on voice chat and were able to make boring parts of the game fun. For example, we all grouped up and power leveled each others relics for spiritbond stage. We had a ton of fun, most people enjoyed being on our mumble and well lets just say we have a looooooot of inside jokes. I totally get where ppl coming from tho with too many people speaking or annoying ppl that won't shut up. But if it is comprised of the right people it can enhance the experience. At least for me. Defiantly one of the reasons I love my linkshell so much.
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    Last edited by Technyze; 02-11-2013 at 05:22 PM.
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    Nix's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Technyze View Post
    Personally I feel voice chat chat be much more than just a tool for raiding. It can enhance the gameplay and make it more fun, my linkshell and I had a lot of great timers on voice chat and were able to make boring parts of the game fun. For example, we all grouped up and power leveled each others relics for spiritbond stage. We had a ton of fun, most people enjoyed being on our mumble and well lets just say we have a looooooot of inside jokes. I totally get where ppl coming from tho with too many people speaking or annoying ppl that won't shut up. But if it is comprised of the right people it can enhance the experience. At least for me. Defiantly one of the reasons I love my linkshell so much.
    I agree that with the right people it makes it awesome, it's just -so- hard sometimes to find the right group lol
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    Vilhem Dijkstra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    Careful, get me all excited and I'll start using dude, radical and tubular. Just you wait.

    I feel you 100% on the rest of what you say XD I wouldn't say I'm reclusive irl but I do LOVE my own space. I'm alone for most of the day working, husband comes home and that's the general amount of social interaction I get. Much more than that and I get all flustered XD

    I can do the social thing, but it's just so much easier not to. haha.
    Parties are over-rated anyhow!!
    Wow..tubular...that's so 1990 LOL. I was what..11?

    I've always been introverted, so I never really do well in social chats, but for the most part I manage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Technyze View Post
    Personally I feel voice chat chat be much more than just a tool for raiding. It can enhance the gameplay and make it more fun, my linkshell and I had a lot of great timers on voice chat and were able to make boring parts of the game fun. For example, we all grouped up and power leveled each others relics for spiritbond stage. We had a ton of fun, most people enjoyed being on our mumble and well lets just say we have a looooooot of inside jokes. I totally get where ppl coming from tho with too many people speaking or annoying ppl that won't shut up. But if it is comprised of the right people it can enhance the experience. At least for me. Defiantly one of the reasons I love my linkshell so much.
    I agree, it can enhance the experience, so long as you already have that level of friendship established. There are some linkshells that only do hardcore raiding, and don't really care for social interaction outside of that.

    With my linkshell, I'm glad we can all be friendly and still do events. I remember specifically one night we were doing To Kill a Raven, and half my party was drunk/stoned, so obviously we weren't gonna win...but it was funny hearing the comments as we fought anyway. "My healing skillzzz are soooo awesome right nowwww" "Hey,I meant to run the other way to avoid his laser!"

    And of course, inbetween failed runs, we synced firedancing like bawwses.

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    Molly Millions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    Wow..tubular...that's so 1990 LOL. I was what..11?

    I've always been introverted, so I never really do well in social chats, but for the most part I manage.



    I agree, it can enhance the experience, so long as you already have that level of friendship established. There are some linkshells that only do hardcore raiding, and don't really care for social interaction outside of that.

    With my linkshell, I'm glad we can all be friendly and still do events. I remember specifically one night we were doing To Kill a Raven, and half my party was drunk/stoned, so obviously we weren't gonna win...but it was funny hearing the comments as we fought anyway. "My healing skillzzz are soooo awesome right nowwww" "Hey,I meant to run the other way to avoid his laser!"

    And of course, inbetween failed runs, we synced firedancing like bawwses.

    OMG, that night was so fun!
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    Deagon Willows
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    I tried it once in Warhammer, but since English isn't my native language, I have a pretty difficult time to follow everything.
    And I find it hard to talk in English, I prefer to read and type.

    I also use it with family in games as minecraft, but I even dislike to talk to family. My husband always talks with the rest of the family, I am mostly silent and just listen.

    I can understand it is an advance in battles, but then you need to be able to follow the conversation. I lose my concentration ingame when I try to figure out what everyone is saying. So it just doesn't work for me.

    So for me it would be no microphone at all, not with friends, or strangers, I prefer chat.
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    Keith Dragoon
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    Zalera
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    I prefer to use my mic because It's hard reading the chat and sometimes I prefer to relax my eyes abit and just watch the pretty color. Skype/Mumble/TS/Vent all help me do this.

    Plus I am told that I have hilarious commentary sometimes so that's a plus. >.>
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    Alegis Leqarna
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    I prefer to not use a microphone.

    I miss the times in FFXI where we did handle to coordinate 50 ppl in Dynamis without the use of mumble/ts3/ventrillo...
    These days u are forced to use it, even in Games where u go with 4-8 ppl because they cant handle that very few ppl without voice-chat...
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    Technyze Deepforces
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    Haha thats awesome vilhem! Im all for drunken event night XD! I might have to share some of my LS stories of good times here tmr or maybe one of my LS members will chim in
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