Truely separating class from job - an overhaul (again).

[BlaiseLallaise]

...it has on occassion even been "loosly" mentioned by devs. so it tends to be a good and common example of the problems with the old system...

I can't find the post, but I believe Yoshi-P may have used it in an example. Whether it was him or just a dev, it spoke pretty loudly that the thought is on their minds.

So, instead of bitching about how I think Dark Knight would fit better with Marauder, I decided to consider how it might fit with Gladiator. Then it hit me. What if Gladiator could use both 1-handed and 2-handed swords. They are, in essence, a 'sword user'. Does that necessarily restrict it to 1-handed swords? I can't see why it would.

Including 2-handers into their weaponry, Gladiator branching to Dark Knight suddenly isn't such a stretch. This is given PLD is restricted to 1-handed, and DRK is restricted to 2-handed, and each type of sword has its own weapon skills. We will have to see what SE decides to do.

[Reika]

I can't find the post, but I believe Yoshi-P may have used it in an example. Whether it was him or just a dev, it spoke pretty loudly that the thought is on their minds.

So, instead of bitching about how I think Dark Knight would fit better with Marauder, I decided to consider how it might fit with Gladiator. Then it hit me. What if Gladiator could use both 1-handed and 2-handed swords. They are, in essence, a 'sword user'. Does that necessarily restrict it to 1-handed swords? I can't see why it would.

Including 2-handers into their weaponry, Gladiator branching to Dark Knight suddenly isn't such a stretch. This is given PLD is restricted to 1-handed, and DRK is restricted to 2-handed, and each type of sword has its own weapon skills. We will have to see what SE decides to do.

You can give GLD a 2h weapon, but that wouldn't change its skillset which has too many shield based abilities, all defensive based abilities, no aoe attacks, and no really powerful weaponskills other than what Dark Knight job skills would have. So you 10 or so abilities become useless with a greatsword equipped and not tanking, 5 cross class skills are lost, and all you gain are 5 abilities. Thats not going to work either - without an overhaul of gladiator.

5 abilities pertaining to the job is what kills any ability to do any of that. Only a Overhaul can make it happen.

[BlaiseLallaise]

You can give GLD a 2h weapon, but that wouldn't change its skillset which has too many shield based abilities, all defensive based abilities, no aoe attacks, and no really powerful weaponskills other than what Dark Knight job skills would have. So you 10 or so abilities become useless with a greatsword equipped and not tanking, 5 cross class skills are lost, and all you gain are 5 abilities. Thats not going to work either - without an overhaul of gladiator.

5 abilities pertaining to the job is what kills any ability to do any of that. Only a Overhaul can make it happen.

As I've stated before, I totally agree class overhaul would be necessary, and that is an implied fact in my previous comment. Just giving a 2-handed sword to Gladiator implies some kind of overhaul. Just so we're clear, my stance is that the only scenario where class overhaul is not necessary would be if SE continued with the 1 class, 1 job mechanic.