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    Yes, many other companies do it to, but others do not. I'm not singling Apple out here.

    Also the Apple patent for my first point was hardware that literally stops your phone from being able to make calls, or completely disables music you may be listening to on an iPod.

    http://www.patentlyapple.com/patentl...g-program.html

    On the note of Jailbreaking. Trying to get free stuff? A whole slew of Reasons to Jailbreak have nothing to do with trying to get free stuff. Many people out there want to modify a device the way they wish because it's theirs. Apple doesn't differentiate those people from the very small "I want free stuff hur hur" group of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Yes, many other companies do it to, but others do not. I'm not singling Apple out here.

    Also the Apple patent for my first point was hardware that literally stops your phone from being able to make calls, or completely disables music you may be listening to on an iPod.

    http://www.patentlyapple.com/patentl...g-program.html

    On the note of Jailbreaking. Trying to get free stuff? A whole slew of Reasons to Jailbreak have nothing to do with trying to get free stuff. Many people out there want to modify a device the way they wish because it's theirs. Apple doesn't differentiate those people from the very small "I want free stuff hur hur" group of people.
    That patent is based on a subsidized OS/software that is on an opt-out/trial system. ie You can buy an ad-free version for normal price, or you can get a "free" version of the same software, but you just have to sit through ads.

    It is basically to replace "shareware" software, and is not for full retail versions of the products. I think it's a great idea - people get to try the full software out before they financially commit. Google does this with online media (such as Youtube).

    As for Jailbreaking - The easiest way to stop piracy is preventative. If you take out the ability to download hacked software, then you are effectively preventing it from happening. The only way to knock out thousands of hacked programs is to knock out the source.

    Look at the old P2P programs like Napster. It is a much bigger fight to track down all the citizens using Napster, then it is to take out Napster and prevent people downloading it in the first place - despite people using Napster to share legal files.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    That patent is based on a subsidized OS/software that is on an opt-out/trial system. ie You can buy an ad-free version for normal price, or you can get a "free" version of the same software, but you just have to sit through ads.

    It is basically to replace "shareware" software, and is not for full retail versions of the products. I think it's a great idea - people get to try the full software out before they financially commit. Google does this with online media (such as Youtube).

    As for Jailbreaking - The easiest way to stop piracy is preventative. If you take out the ability to download hacked software, then you are effectively preventing it from happening. The only way to knock out thousands of hacked programs is to knock out the source.

    Look at the old P2P programs like Napster. It is a much bigger fight to track down all the citizens using Napster, then it is to take out Napster and prevent people downloading it in the first place - despite people using Napster to share legal files.
    Preventative. What most people call what they're doing is "treating their customers like criminals" which many companies also do as well. Same goes for the Napster thing, or anything similar. Like the issue with MegaUpload. The companies pushing the case against them want ALL of the data deleted, even if someone has perfectly legal files on there. And of course doesn't want to give them the opportunity to recover them either.

    Either way, I see far to many saying everything Apple does is fine and ok, everyone else does this so it's fine, this doesn't affect me so it's fine. Apple's just about the wealthiest entity out there right now, so they have a ton of potential for abuse.
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