ARR and Mac

[Laraul]

Seriously someone tell me what's so great about macs, they are freeBSD with a GUI anyone with half a knowledge of linux can make up, with inferior hardware and a marked up price.

Where as Windows is DOS with a GUI.

What do you get when buying a mac except an OS that should be free with poor hardware compared to a PC for the price?p

I get a badass computer that's still going to be faster than yours, that's what.

BTW, what innovation is their in the PC industry?

[Zenaku]

Where as Windows is DOS with a GUI.



I get a badass computer that's still going to be faster than yours, that's what.

BTW, what innovation is their in the PC industry?

imac
27-inch: 3.2GHz 1.900$ without upgrade

vs

AMD Base Computer
Two video card
16GB Ram
Water cooling
27-inch 3D monitor

same imac but with upgrade 4,249.00$

Vs

Intel base computer
4 video card
32GB Ram
3 Monitor 3D
Water cooling

So how is Imac better? with the price of the upgrade version i can build over 4-5 computer that would be faster and better then one imac.

I hope your trolling.

[Laraul]

I have a MacPro. Not an iMac.

If you can find some low cost Xeon pre-built workstations, I'll be very very impressed.

So how is Imac better? with the price of the upgrade version i can build over 4-5 computer that would be faster and better then one imac.

Considering the labor involved in putting a PC together, the cost would eclipse the price of an iMac. Not to mention the cost of a one year parts/labor warranty.

I know there is nothing I could ever possibly say or do that would make people who don't want to understand understand, so I am obviously not going to try. It's always been like this unfortunately.

[Klefth]

Considering the labor involved in putting a PC together, the cost would eclipse the price of an iMac. Not to mention the cost of a one year parts/labor warranty.

LOL! Wait what? The cost of the labor involved in putting a PC together would eclipse the price of an iMac? I gave it a thought for a moment, but I really can't figure out whatever the fuck are you talking about. O_o Maybe you mean the 30-ish mins tops that it would take to build one having the parts to do it? 'cause, you know... that's not that hard nor does it take that long, so... wtf?

And the cost of a one year warranty on parts? Which, those that sometimes come with lifetime warranties (like some PSUs and EVGA GPUs)? And all of that would eclipse the cost of an incredibly overpriced desktop pc with underpowered laptop parts?

I... I don't even

[Molly_Millions]

I have a MacPro. Not an iMac.

If you can find some low cost Xeon pre-built workstations, I'll be very very impressed.



Considering the labor involved in putting a PC together, the cost would eclipse the price of an iMac. Not to mention the cost of a one year parts/labor warranty.

I know there is nothing I could ever possibly say or do that would make people who don't want to understand understand, so I am obviously not going to try. It's always been like this unfortunately.

Dude, putting a pc together is just a matter of "putting the square peg in the square hole". It's ridiculously easy, and not labor intensive work at all.

[Laraul]

Dude, putting a pc together is just a matter of "putting the square peg in the square hole". It's ridiculously easy, and not labor intensive work at all.

I could say the same about putting an automobile together (except you have to do some wielding). It's a matter of perspective.

Ask yourself if you would build 30 individual PCs for 30 separate individuals? Software and all. How much would you charge on top of parts? How much would you charge for additional maintenance?

And the cost of a one year warranty on parts? Which, those that sometimes come with lifetime warranties (like some PSUs and EVGA GPUs)? And all of that would eclipse the cost of an incredibly overpriced desktop pc with underpowered laptop parts?

Best Buy's "Geek Squad" charges $300 for replacing parts. Labor isn't cheep. If you've ever had a car serviced you'd know this.

[Klefth]

I could say the same about putting an automobile together (except you have to do some wielding). It's a matter of perspective.

...You're seriously comparing building a PC to building a car. Wow...

Best Buy's "Geek Squad" charges $300 for replacing parts. Labor isn't cheep. If you've ever had a car serviced you'd know this.

Your comparison is seriously ridiculous, as is the price for that service. Who the hell would charge $300 for "replacing parts"? I mean, that's about as much as the most pricy parts in a PC cost (well, depending on your system, that is). Unless the part you were replacing was a burned out CPU or GPU (and higher end ones for that price), $300 is an absolutely absurd price.

[Zenaku]

...You're seriously comparing building a PC to building a car. Wow...

Your comparison is seriously ridiculous, as is the price for that service. Who the hell would charge $300 for "replacing parts"? I mean, that's about as much as the most pricy parts in a PC cost (well, depending on your system, that is). Unless the part you were replacing was a burned out CPU or GPU (and higher end ones for that price), $300 is an absolutely absurd price.

Geek squad does charge some mess up price to just replace something. Just to see what wrong with your computer it easy 70+$ but that not the point. Who in the hell would pay 100+ for some guy to replace a part when you can do it yourself in 30m?

I myself 3days ago open my computer and put new thermal paste on my cpu. In most case that is the hardest part for a normal person to do once you look it up on youtube and do it a few time you be set.

[Zenaku]

I have a MacPro. Not an iMac.

If you can find some low cost Xeon pre-built workstations, I'll be very very impressed.



Considering the labor involved in putting a PC together, the cost would eclipse the price of an iMac. Not to mention the cost of a one year parts/labor warranty.

I know there is nothing I could ever possibly say or do that would make people who don't want to understand understand, so I am obviously not going to try. It's always been like this unfortunately.

What are you talking about you know that anyone with half a brain can put a computer together right? I build two computer took me less then 1hour. But if i'm building a 4.000$ computer with water cooling and such which would be the same price as a upgrade imac it would take me 3 hours tops. To make sure the water cooling that is working making sure i put all the cables right and making sure all 4 video cards are working.

Then you download windows on it and you put drivers and you can even stress test it for few hours to make sure it running just fine.

Best Buy's "Geek Squad" charges $300 for replacing parts. Labor isn't cheep. If you've ever had a car serviced you'd know this.

I'm a IT guy and labor would cost me noting becuase i be the one doing the labor. Did you not know people with half a brain can look up youtube videos and learn how to put a computer together? the only hard part would be putting in a CPU which you have to make sure you put it right which is not even hard. The arrow on the cpu and the mobo tell you how to put it then putting the heatsink is simple. If you putting a water cooling you have to put a back plate which take only a few secs.

if i had 4k i would buy all the parts i said in my other post the shipping would not even be that much if i waste my time looking for good deals. it would take me 1-3hours to build a 4.000$ computer with water cooling .

[Altena]

What are you talking about you know that anyone with half a brain can put a computer together right?

While I do agree that $300 labour to plug in a GPU from whatever computer store is massively overpriced, your statement above is extremely false.

My mother is a very intelligent woman yet wouldn't know where to plug in a stick of RAM or how to install a hard drive. There are a huge amount of intelligent people that don't know how the components of a computer go together.

I build two computer took me less then 1hour. But if i'm building a 4.000$ computer with water cooling and such which would be the same price as a upgrade imac it would take me 3 hours tops. To make sure the water cooling that is working making sure i put all the cables right and making sure all 4 video cards are working.

$4000 for an iMac? Lolwhat? I got my iMac 4 years ago for $2600 AUD, which was a top of the line iMac in its day. Where are you getting this figure? Because you are getting ripped off if you were quoted $4000.

You do have to also take into consideration that to buy an equivalent display, your options are quite limited and expensive.

If you have the display, the knowledge, and the patience to build a Hackintosh, install both Windows & Mac OS, sure you can build a computer using PC components for a cheaper price, however for the general population that is not an option.

I'm a IT guy and labor would cost me noting becuase i be the one doing the labor. Did you not know people with half a brain can look up youtube videos and learn how to put a computer together?

Once again, my mother wouldn't know where to begin.

the only hard part would be putting in a CPU which you have to make sure you put it right which is not even hard. The arrow on the cpu and the mobo tell you how to put it then putting the heatsink is simple. If you putting a water cooling you have to put a back plate which take only a few secs.

What is hard for you, may be extremely difficult for the worlds greatest cyclist, or swimmer, or body builder or *insert non IT profession here*. Being handy with computers is not easy for some people, even very intelligent people.

if i had 4k i would buy all the parts i said in my other post the shipping would not even be that much if i waste my time looking for good deals. it would take me 1-3hours to build a 4.000$ computer with water cooling .

I believe your timing is insanely underexaggerated. To find 8-10 different components, price them all up, find the best deals, drive to each store or wait for online delivery, you are pushing on days.

If I wanted to buy a new apple computer, I would drive to my local Apple store, spend 30 mins with a sales rep to tell me what I do or don't need for my circumstance, hand over my credit card and walk out with a computer. I would then plug a power cable in, put the batteries in my keyboard and mouse, then be able to turn the computer on.

People pay money for this premium, and for people that don't know how to install a RAM stick, it is certainly the easiest option. You can't argue with convenience. People pay for it.