ARR and Mac

[Eekiki]

I had to open up a lenovo laptop and a macbook on the same day. One was definitely easier to open and put back together than the other.

If you're saying the Mac was the easier one to take apart and put back together, I call shenanigans unless you have access to some highly corrosive solvent. Macbooks are 80% computer, 20% epoxy.

[Laume]

If you're saying the Mac was the easier one to take apart and put back together, I call shenanigans unless you have access to some highly corrosive solvent. Macbooks are 80% computer, 20% epoxy.

I was reseating the keyboard on the lenovo t61:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Od48R4XxlU

and replacing the dvd drive on the macbook:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l151W_girY

And cleaning out the dust in both machines.

The lenovo had 3~4 different types and length of screws. A 2~3 more pieces to take a part from different angles. The macbook was pretty intuitive to take apart and put back together so it was pretty quick. The lenovo... I accidentally screwed a screw through keyboard membrane while putting it back together because I accidentally picked up the wrong length of screw....

[Eekiki]

I was reseating the keyboard on the lenovo t61:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Od48R4XxlU

and replacing the dvd drive on the macbook:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l151W_girY

And cleaning out the dust in both machines.

The lenovo had 3~4 different types and length of screws. A 2~3 more pieces to take a part from different angles. The macbook was pretty intuitive to take apart and put back together so it was pretty quick. The lenovo... I accidentally screwed a screw through keyboard membrane while putting it back together because I accidentally picked up the wrong length of screw....

A Macbook from 2008 is a lot different from a Macbook today. So you were taking apart a Macbook from when they actually were designed well.

[Laume]

A Macbook from 2008 is a lot different from a Macbook today. So you were taking apart a Macbook from when they actually were designed well.

Yes, but my statement still holds true. Thus your declaration of shenanigans is unjust and you can't get your broomstick.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clip...81/shenanigans

Now, I declare shenanigans that macbooks are 20% epoxy. I demand component ratios of a recent macbook air to prove your point! XD

[Eekiki]

Yes, but my statement still holds true. Thus your declaration of shenanigans is unjust and you can't get your broomstick.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clip...81/shenanigans

Now, I declare shenanigans that macbooks are 20% epoxy. I demand component ratios of a recent macbook air to prove your point! XD

The correct statement, then, is that Macbooks were well-designed, which is quite true.

Source:

"The new MacBook Pro is virtually non-upgradeable -- making it the first MacBook Pro that will be unable to adapt to future advances in memory and storage technology," said Wiens.

The teardown revealed that Apple used many of the same assembly techniques as it does with the self-contained and virtually un-upgradeable MacBook Air, including proprietary screws, copious amounts of glue, expensive parts -- the screen in particular -- that must be completely replaced even after the smallest failure, and fused components that will likely break when a neighboring part must be removed.

Not to mention that on the newest Macbook Pro, they've removed the ethernet port. If you're a person that wants to use ethernet (like, say, everyone in the world) you need to pay an additional $25 for an adapter on top of the already ridiculous price, because Apple thinks they can make Thunderbolt a standard technology by forcing Mac owners to use it. After all, it worked with Firewire, right?

Oh, wait...no it didn't.

I'm not saying Macs are terrible. I'm only saying they are at best as good as comparable non-Apple branded hardware, and freakishly overpriced.

Plus, Apple has become an obnoxiously litigious company. They can't innovate anymore without Steve Jobs, so they're doing all they can to stymie other companies' attempts to move technology forward.

[Laume]

The correct statement, then, is that Macbooks were well-designed, which is quite true.

Source:


Not to mention that on the newest Macbook Pro, they've removed the ethernet port. If you're a person that wants to use ethernet (like, say, everyone in the world) you need to pay an additional $25 for an adapter on top of the already ridiculous price, because Apple thinks they can make Thunderbolt a standard technology by forcing Mac owners to use it. After all, it worked with Firewire, right?

Oh, wait...no it didn't.

I'm not saying Macs are terrible. I'm only saying they are at best as good as comparable non-Apple branded hardware, and freakishly overpriced.

Plus, Apple has become an obnoxiously litigious company. They can't innovate anymore without Steve Jobs, so they're doing all they can to stymie other companies' attempts to move technology forward.

Not good enough. I demand numbers! XD It has to be the claimed 20% ratio of glue to computer parts! And you were calling shenanigans on my statement that

I had to open up a lenovo laptop and a macbook on the same day. One was definitely easier to open and put back together than the other.

I've proven that, yes, a macbook is easier to open and put back together than a lenovo! XD I demand proof or my declaration of shenanigans is just!

[Delsus]

Not good enough. I demand numbers! XD It has to be the claimed 20% ratio of glue to computer parts! And you were calling shenanigans on my statement that


I've proven that, yes, a macbook is easier to open and put back together than a lenovo! XD I demand proof or my declaration of shenanigans is just!

Someone is sounding like a fanboy to me, he once opened a 5 year old Macbook and claims his thoughts are true now, I will tell you Apple like to take all open technology out of their devices, to force it on people who own anything Apple for no reason but to sell you more things, the lighning port in the iPhone 5, sweet you hundreds of dollars worth of accessories are useless you have to buy them again, is there really anything wrong with microUSB you know that industry standard technology? It's Apple's way or the highway as far as they are concerned.

What I find funny is that we all live in a free world, (with reasonable restrictions) but people will let companies like Apple hold them back, you are not allowed to do something as stupid as upgrade a HDD, the pre-installed one will be fine, what change the theme of an OS??? That is stupid who would want to personalise something? I won't even get started on Apple's ideals of "If anyone makes something we will patent it, then sue them for using it."

Imagine if Steve Jobs (now Tim Cook) was president of the US "What you want to paint the interior walls of your iHouse, Life in prison for not doing what we say"

[Altena]

I've proven that, yes, a macbook is easier to open and put back together than a lenovo! XD I demand proof or my declaration of shenanigans is just!

Only true for the standard MacBook Pro (non retina display).

I would find the ifixit.com teardown but I am too lazy.