ARR and Mac

[Molly_Millions]

What programs has Apple slipped into the iTunes install?

/cough

Quicktime

/cough

I despise Quicktime. It puts a stranglehold on my media, not good when my pc is the heart of my recording studio. I'll never buy an ipod for music because I'd be forced to use iTunes/Quicktime.

[Altena]

I despise Quicktime. It puts a stranglehold on my media, not good when my pc is the heart of my recording studio. I'll never buy an ipod for music because I'd be forced to use iTunes/Quicktime.

What kind of media do you record if you don't mind me asking?

[ispano]

Yes, many other companies do it to, but others do not. I'm not singling Apple out here.

Also the Apple patent for my first point was hardware that literally stops your phone from being able to make calls, or completely disables music you may be listening to on an iPod.

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patentl...g-program.html

On the note of Jailbreaking. Trying to get free stuff? A whole slew of Reasons to Jailbreak have nothing to do with trying to get free stuff. Many people out there want to modify a device the way they wish because it's theirs. Apple doesn't differentiate those people from the very small "I want free stuff hur hur" group of people.

[Altena]

Yes, many other companies do it to, but others do not. I'm not singling Apple out here.

Also the Apple patent for my first point was hardware that literally stops your phone from being able to make calls, or completely disables music you may be listening to on an iPod.

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patentl...g-program.html

On the note of Jailbreaking. Trying to get free stuff? A whole slew of Reasons to Jailbreak have nothing to do with trying to get free stuff. Many people out there want to modify a device the way they wish because it's theirs. Apple doesn't differentiate those people from the very small "I want free stuff hur hur" group of people.

That patent is based on a subsidized OS/software that is on an opt-out/trial system. ie You can buy an ad-free version for normal price, or you can get a "free" version of the same software, but you just have to sit through ads.

It is basically to replace "shareware" software, and is not for full retail versions of the products. I think it's a great idea - people get to try the full software out before they financially commit. Google does this with online media (such as Youtube).

As for Jailbreaking - The easiest way to stop piracy is preventative. If you take out the ability to download hacked software, then you are effectively preventing it from happening. The only way to knock out thousands of hacked programs is to knock out the source.

Look at the old P2P programs like Napster. It is a much bigger fight to track down all the citizens using Napster, then it is to take out Napster and prevent people downloading it in the first place - despite people using Napster to share legal files.

[ispano]

That patent is based on a subsidized OS/software that is on an opt-out/trial system. ie You can buy an ad-free version for normal price, or you can get a "free" version of the same software, but you just have to sit through ads.

It is basically to replace "shareware" software, and is not for full retail versions of the products. I think it's a great idea - people get to try the full software out before they financially commit. Google does this with online media (such as Youtube).

As for Jailbreaking - The easiest way to stop piracy is preventative. If you take out the ability to download hacked software, then you are effectively preventing it from happening. The only way to knock out thousands of hacked programs is to knock out the source.

Look at the old P2P programs like Napster. It is a much bigger fight to track down all the citizens using Napster, then it is to take out Napster and prevent people downloading it in the first place - despite people using Napster to share legal files.

Preventative. What most people call what they're doing is "treating their customers like criminals" which many companies also do as well. Same goes for the Napster thing, or anything similar. Like the issue with MegaUpload. The companies pushing the case against them want ALL of the data deleted, even if someone has perfectly legal files on there. And of course doesn't want to give them the opportunity to recover them either.

Either way, I see far to many saying everything Apple does is fine and ok, everyone else does this so it's fine, this doesn't affect me so it's fine. Apple's just about the wealthiest entity out there right now, so they have a ton of potential for abuse.

[ispano]

Info on one of the times Apple slipped Safari into the updater, abusing the security update system to push it automatically.

https://windowssecrets.com/patch-wat...ike-it-or-not/

[Altena]

Info on one of the times Apple slipped Safari into the updater, abusing the security update system to push it automatically.

https://windowssecrets.com/patch-wat...ike-it-or-not/

Thousands of other companies do this, and many reside in Windows applications also.

Getting something for nothing isn't necessarily free. Sure it might not cost anything to you directly, but as far as marketing goes, it's pretty open slather.

Why is there such a negative impact when Apple do this also?

[ispano]

I personally haven't seen another company abuse a security update system to do it. Add it to the list and enable it automatically? Yes. But putting something that's not a security update into said security updates to push it to more people unnoticed?

Again, this all boils down to the "other people do it, so it's ok for Apple to" I tend to berate those other companies as well.

[Laraul]

I personally haven't seen another company abuse a security update system to do it. Add it to the list and enable it automatically? Yes. But putting something that's not a security update into said security updates to push it to more people unnoticed?

https://windowssecrets.com/top-story...-with-patches/

Look harder. Everyone's guilty.

And Apple doesn't push it unnoticed. You are prompted to install Safari when software update does an update check on iTunes. Uncheck the box in Software Update, click quit, and you'll never be asked to install Safari again.

[Laraul]

OKAY PLZ STOP NOW!

Really no one cares this is totally off topic. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Love Apple, Hate Apple. Time to move on.