Job Leveling / Separate Idenity

[Jynx]

but a online game players would always find the best set up and make other use it.

Min-Maxing happens no matter what the system is.

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Now as to the main OP.

I don't care what system they implement as long as jobs are not tied and hamstringed by the class system. It does nothing but limit how unique the jobs themselves can be due to the intrinsic nature of requiring that job to be based around the class and it's abillities.

No matter how you paint it any class spawning from Gladiator will have access to all of the same base skills requiring them to be a tank of some sorts, and restricting any "One handed sword" class to be just that.

Any class coming from Archer will require the use of a ranged weapon, and the skills that come base with archer.

Any class spawning from Thaumaturg will require the use of the base elemental wheel that Thaum comes with.

Right now there is very little the developers can do to work around the class system, personally I hope it burns in a fire during Beta phases and we just get classic Jobs that are unique unto themselves and not chained down by a class.

Why must a Blue Mage spawn from a Gladiator and use Gladiator skills? wouldn't it be better to focus a Blue Mages skill tree on just the Blue Mages unique abillities and lore?

Why must a Time mage be tied down to either Conj-Thaum-Arcanist skills?

Do you see where I'm coming from instead of using all the skill slots each class gets to make unique skills the developers need to keep everyones skills linked to their cliche class origins.

[Shougun]

Min-Maxing happens no matter what the system is.

--

Now as to the main OP.

I don't care what system they implement as long as jobs are not tied and hamstringed by the class system. It does nothing but limit how unique the jobs themselves can be due to the intrinsic nature of requiring that job to be based around the class and it's abillities.

No matter how you paint it any class spawning from Gladiator will have access to all of the same base skills requiring them to be a tank of some sorts, and restricting any "One handed sword" class to be just that.

Any class coming from Archer will require the use of a ranged weapon, and the skills that come base with archer.

Any class spawning from Thaumaturg will require the use of the base elemental wheel that Thaum comes with.

Right now there is very little the developers can do to work around the class system, personally I hope it burns in a fire during Beta phases and we just get classic Jobs that are unique unto themselves and not chained down by a class.

Why must a Blue Mage spawn from a Gladiator and use Gladiator skills? wouldn't it be better to focus a Blue Mages skill tree on just the Blue Mages unique abillities and lore?

Why must a Time mage be tied down to either Conj-Thaum-Arcanist skills?

Do you see where I'm coming from instead of using all the skill slots each class gets to make unique skills the developers need to keep everyones skills linked to their cliche class origins.

Exactly - one of the reasons why I think the system will collapse. Every skill from the class and the whole general idea of the class transfers to the job but the job isnt the class. Its a forced situation. Some of the classes being like the job helps it work better but in the end after many levels have been added.. its still going to be a case where some abnormal retcon work will need to take place (imo). Falling even faster if we have duo jobs from one class..

You can start to make class only abilities and then replace those as it transfers into the job - but the consistency and logical flow would be minimum from this. That is the reason why I suggested a visual level system which would easily explain the changes, reductions, and additions. Though the best flow would just to start it from scratch.

[Dzian]

stuff.

So i just typed a post a somehow closed the damn window. then i reopened the browser and find you said everything i was going to

saves me typing it again lol