Removing elemental nukes from WHM

[stanleyyoung]

what im getting tired of in this thread and others like it is the fact that ppl want carbon copy jobs form xi, and this is pretty much a well known fact and is true. What i see at the core of all the grief about the jobs in 14 is that ppl have in their minds that "XI invented the jobs along with setting the standard in how they should be/play and set the tradition too". There is nothing wrong with using XI as reference or even a base but SE keeping to traditional looking at the entire series for a start with designing jobs but also trying to be innovative and change things up a little is good and personally i like it.

We all see the fiasco with blm and whm with the spells they should/shouldn't have or how they are supposed to be which mainly comes from that fact that they aren't exactly like XI. To add look at the grief about the current bard we have in 14, you can see thread after thread about how it needs or needs not to be. I actually like how whm can primarily heal but do some dps with the element spells it has or how bard can support but do some dps. Its nice to see that a whm not only keeps the party alive but sometimes there are cases like you guys pointed out that whm was a saving grace since it could deal dmg with the elements.

We have this problem that ppl can't let go of XI and aren't open to any new changes or ideas for jobs in 14 unless they are exact replicas of XI but not everyone is like that. Just look at the thread made not to long ago about ninja with the dog idea, you saw how ppl said fuck it that idea is dumb keep ninja like XI or that will not work so don't change my ninja, how dare SE even think about doing that, or that's not tradition so get the hell out of here with the ninja & dog idea.

You guys think we have a problem now with the whm, blm & brd situation how bad will it get when say samurai finally gets added and it does not play 100% the same from XI. There will be riots all over if sam isn't exactly like XI, lets add to that with rdm if it isn't carbon copy from XI then there will be hell to pay. And it doesn't take much for this to occur any slight change or variation in the jobs for 14 that are different from XI then we will have ppl gathering together at running about crazy with their pitch forks and torches.

The list goes on & on with jobs being added and until we as a community can break from the thinking "XI invented the jobs along with setting the standard in how they should be/play and set the tradition too". At that point when we break away from that thinking we can then have a good game with cool jobs that have core traditions but having neat and new cool stuff also which will make 14 a good game.

[dbrewer225]

Stanley you have hit the nail on the head. everything you just said is basically what alot of people are complaining about. I agree with you that ff14 needs its own identity instead of it being ff11 v.2. People need to adjust to new ideas and innovations. If people dont like ff14 being ff11 then go play ff11. Again, people need to adjust to the changes or be left behind. Case in point, yoshi and the team know what they are doing. Its amazing that any other MMO out there dont consider player feedback, and this is the first MMO that acually kept its word. So everybody, shut it up and let go of the ff11 mentality, cause its getting old. Lol watch this im gonna get flamed for speaking my thought, but geez man the compalaints on this game is OVER 9000.

[Altena]

Stanley you have hit the nail on the head. everything you just said is basically what alot of people are complaining about. I agree with you that ff14 needs its own identity instead of it being ff11 v.2. People need to adjust to new ideas and innovations. If people dont like ff14 being ff11 then go play ff11. Again, people need to adjust to the changes or be left behind. Case in point, yoshi and the team know what they are doing. Its amazing that any other MMO out there dont consider player feedback, and this is the first MMO that acually kept its word. So everybody, shut it up and let go of the ff11 mentality, cause its getting old. Lol watch this im gonna get flamed for speaking my thought, but geez man the compalaints on this game is OVER 9000.

I quit FF11 because it got boring. I love FF14, I just hate playing boring jobs when I have to. I am not asking for an FF11 clone, I am asking for more excitement to a currently terrible mechanic.

I'm not flaming anyone :/ I stated even in my OP that this won't realistically happen, and people will disagree with me.