Removing elemental nukes from WHM

[Alhanelem]

Cause in every other final fantasy, Fire/Blizzard/Thunder did almost the same damage as each other. They were equals, if you ran into a mob that was fire-based, you could you thunder or ice to do the same damage.

In FFXIV if you run into a lightning-based mob you are screwed. You can't do nearly the same damage to a mob that isn't lightning resistant. That is my problem, it's not traditional.

But this has absolutely nothing to do with the elements and everything to do with the spells themselves.

That said, I really don't give a rats ass if it's traditional or not in this case. I liked the different spells being given different functions.

[Jynx]

I really think SE is stretching the jobs a little thin due to them wanting everyone to have the exact same number of abillities. Some jobs that would traditionally make more sense to have a large list of spells got shortlisted due to constraints.

WHM and BLM both seem to suffer from this, also the lack of proper tiering of spells takes alot of the MP control you would normally have out of your hands. They make up for it with a few abillities but your not able to control your damage as well as you should be able to. If anything I always thought of BLM as a glass cannon with high damage output quick death ensues so they had alot of options to dial back the damage so they didn't get dead.

Personally I'd like to see BLM get all the elementals to their handling mainly due to it being their trademark, or hell at least make the other elements they do have available to them not usefull in only a handfull of situations and even those few usefull situations need resistence checks...

[Issachar]

You guys need to stop trying to turn this into FFXI.

[Jynx]

You guys need to stop trying to turn this into FFXI.

It's not really about XI for me, I just generally think of elemental spells when I play Blackmage, Final Fantasy Tactics is my favorite game in the series and it just shows leaps and bounds how creative they can be with all the jobs.

[Issachar]

It's not really about XI for me, I just generally think of elemental spells when I play Blackmage, Final Fantasy Tactics is my favorite game in the series and it just shows leaps and bounds how creative they can be with all the jobs.

Problem is, FFT was made in Square's golden era by competent people who are no longer affiliated with the company. The entire company seems to be more casual/social in their focus now and are unwilling to put hardcore depth like that into their new products. Makes sense when you see the "me too!"ism of WHM. Having a role strictly suited for support would be boring for the casual player, so it needs to do damage too. And the same with Bard.

Also, way to totally be my pale twin.

[KoujiGeki]

So why can SE just rework the Fire and Ice lines so they can be useful like the Thunder spells? No one has answered that yet.

[Kirito]

So why can SE just rework the Fire and Ice lines so they can be useful like the Thunder spells? No one has answered that yet.

They could do what kh has done and make all lvl two fire/ice spells homing. They could make lvl three fire/ice spells nukes and lvl one fire/ice spells to just have quick cast time. Personally I want gravity and time spells but I'll be happy even if they don't add it in...

[KoujiGeki]

Or SE can just change Black Mage to Thunder Mage which is all it will ever amount to. Until the Make Master jobs like Sage which knows every spell.

[Kirito]

Or SE can just change Black Mage to Thunder Mage which is all it will ever amount to. Until the Make Master jobs like Sage which knows every spell.

Not going to happen. That will essentially make all DOM meaningless if you have one sage. No one would ever ask for a BLM or WHM. They would only ask for sage.

[KoujiGeki]

Not going to happen. That will essentially make all DOM meaningless if you have one sage. No one would ever ask for a BLM or WHM. They would only ask for sage.

I was being sarcastic, well except for the thunder mage part. But then everyone would be equal have 2 sages in a party 1 can use Blm spell the other focusing on healing.