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    http://www.ffxiah.com/item/12579/scorpion-harness

    Here's an example Scropion Harness use to sell for about 20m, then 10m, 5m, 1m, 500k 100k, now its at 50k. Still a lot of people buy a scrop harness but since you can resell stuff it just loses its value over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item/12579/scorpion-harness

    Here's an example Scropion Harness use to sell for about 20m, then 10m, 5m, 1m, 500k 100k, now its at 50k. Still a lot of people buy a scrop harness but since you can resell stuff it just loses its value over time.
    That is kind of my point, so lets say 1 year ago a bunch of people bought the scorpion harnesses for 1 mil, 1 year later they decide to sell them back to get their "Investment back" problem is now they are selling for 30k, because people are done with them and are just under cutting to get rid of them. It's no different than NPCing them with this new system or turning it to materia, It is still a loss with both systems but with the new system at least crafting will be use full still, in ff11 crafting is pretty much done, 99% of crafted items in ff11 are not worth a persons time, it's cheaper to buy the finished product than to buy the materials and craft it in most cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item/12579/scorpion-harness

    Here's an example Scropion Harness use to sell for about 20m, then 10m, 5m, 1m, 500k 100k, now its at 50k. Still a lot of people buy a scrop harness but since you can resell stuff it just loses its value over time.
    Everything decreases in value over time. The Scorpion Harness is 10 years old. Here's a simple example, if you bought a brand new 30" TV 10 years ago it would have cost you say $2000. Now you might get say $50 for it if you try to sell it. Because now you can get a brand new 50" TV for $1000. Everything loses value over time. This is how the real world works. IMO your point is invalid.

    Again I do not support this change and can not see any reasoning behind it based on the comments I've read in both threads regarding this matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westers View Post
    Everything decreases in value over time. The Scorpion Harness is 10 years old. Here's a simple example, if you bought a brand new 30" TV 10 years ago it would have cost you say $2000. Now you might get say $50 for it if you try to sell it. Because now you can get a brand new 50" TV for $1000. Everything loses value over time. This is how the real world works. IMO your point is invalid.

    Again I do not support this change and can not see any reasoning behind it based on the comments I've read in both threads regarding this matter.
    Something that has retained some value http://www.ffxiah.com/item/12555/haubergeon

    Haubergeon you know why because its used to make Amarda Hauberk and with aguments its BiS still for some jobs. The thing is since you have to use an abjuration on it the gear becomes bound to you.

    Like I already said having stuff get bound to you works much better for the economy because once someone buys and uses that piece of gear its taken out of the economy. When gear is never destroyed and can be resold infinity market gets flooded and prices tank really fast.

    Its not a MMO but has a similar gear system, Diablo 3 does not have bind on equip items when you find or buy something better you can resell your old gear. What happened as time when on gear on the ah became more flooded with a bunch of the same types of of items and prices overall tanked really hard on everything.

    Quote Originally Posted by HamHam View Post
    I agree with you. It's like SE is copying WoW with this soulbinding gear idea. No imagination to come up with a new system that removes gear. It's not very attractive when a game copy another game because there was not a lot of effort to think.
    People really should stop saying this stuff, I hate this feature WoW used it. Because WoW wasn't even the first game to use equipment binding they didn't create the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post

    People really should stop saying this stuff, I hate this feature WoW used it. Because WoW wasn't even the first game to use equipment binding they didn't create the idea.
    Thank you for derailing my argument. It doesn't matter who was first, whether it was WoW or some other game. The argument is that soulbound gear is not a welcome concept. It is copied from other games into FFIXV, when we all know it is not something the majority who play this game want.

    Look, we don't want to pay for gear (even though I am a crafter, I still buy gear from other discipline) for a high price that doesn't have a return value. This is the argument many have about soulbound. NO RETURN VALUE. can't lend the gear to friends, can't resale it, can't try it out to test stats because now it's stuck with you and can't resale it if the stats are not worth it.

    I've played other games with soulbound and it is something I hated it. I'm sure I'm not alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pseudopsia View Post
    Not welcome for you, for everyone, for a few or for most? You don't speak for me.
    Did I mention you by name? I didn't think so. So don't try to put words into my mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HamHam View Post
    Did I mention you by name? I didn't think so. So don't try to put words into my mouth.
    Well you DID say most players don't want it. How do you know this? Did you ask everyone?
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