Spiritbinding = Ex?

[Reitsu]

Guess we'll be seeing ppl rolling in low lvl gear in parties now since you can't resell it XD. I only bought mid low lvl gear for
1.It was cheap and didn't care.
2. The fact i could resell it and not loose out much on value at that particular time. (I'm talking cobalt gear btw and other lvl 45-50 gear)

I guess a'lot more ppl gonna be stingy with there money so on that note (Let the gimp gear begin)

[Xatsh]

This will make fail finder alot more fail, due to people being really gimp.... Either that or SE is going to have make all content pre-endgame crazy easy so gear does not really matter, like every other western mmo does.

Going to be so many gimps around because they do not want to spend 500k for 5 levels.

[Zumi]

This will make fail finder alot more fail, due to people being really gimp.... Either that or SE is going to have make all content pre-endgame crazy easy so gear does not really matter, like every other western mmo does.

Going to be so many gimps around because they do not want to spend 500k for 5 levels.

Why do you think people will be really gimp? They will be running quests while waiting on dungeon queues, like others have said every quest gives you a piece of good leveling gear appropriate for that level.

It's true that leveling dungeons aren't really that much of a challenge in any mmo its because the real challenge begins at endgame not while leveling.

[Shougun]

People will still buff their characters and the prices will change due to the change in economic structure you cant assume everything will sell the same.

500K armor in 1.0 is first moved to 50K because of the redenomination and secondly will not be 50K because the item will be consumed on use (that and many other changes to the game).


Actually this thread reminds me a lot of the redenomination thread ;_;

[Xatsh]

People will still buff their characters and the prices will change due to the change economic structure you cant assume everything will sell the same.

500K armor in 1.0 is first moved to 50K because of the redenomination and secondly will not be 50K because the item will be consumed on use (that and many other changes to the game).


Actually this thread reminds me a lot of the redenomination thread ;_;

So basically we have 1 of 3 scenerios now

1) The crafters are screwed over... because everything will be next to worthless so people can afford it. Aka the 50k for a set of armor good enough not to hold back a group in dungeon.

2) Dungeons will all be laughably easy so gear pre endgame does not matter... aka like in WoW pre-endgame

3) People will just go into everything gimp because it is not worth the cost for good gear until you get to endgame.


all 3 of those seems pretty epic fail to me.

[Shougun]

So basically we have 1 of 3 scenerios now

1) The crafters are screwed over... because everything will be next to worthless so people can afford it. Aka the 50k for a set of armor good enough not to hold back a group in dungeon.

2) Dungeons will all be laughably easy so gear pre endgame does not matter... aka like in WoW pre-endgame

3) People will just go into everything gimp because it is not worth the cost for good gear until you get to endgame.


all 3 of those seems pretty epic fail to me.

1) No, the whole economy will shift. Crafters from 1.0 may feel like they are making less but thats because all the numbers have been shifted down. ALL the numbers


2) This system has nothing to do with getting gear easily that is a far stretch unrelated assumption


3) People will still gear themselves out, harder games you dont see people sucking. Its pretty even in an easy game people suck and in a hard game people equally suck - you wont have a drastic number of noobs unless you make the system confusing. People will get their character where they think they need it to play - if you need better gear and are poor guess what.. you go grind (quests, monsters, dungeons, farming, crafting, gathering) like everyone should do.


While some things I think are valid fears, there is also just hysteria and I think we are leading into the second.

[schism]

Yea you pretty much summed it up. I hope that's not the case but that is what alot of ppl want for some weird reason.

So basically we have 1 of 3 scenerios now

1) The crafters are screwed over... because everything will be next to worthless so people can afford it. Aka the 50k for a set of armor good enough not to hold back a group in dungeon.

2) Dungeons will all be laughably easy so gear pre endgame does not matter... aka like in WoW pre-endgame

3) People will just go into everything gimp because it is not worth the cost for good gear until you get to endgame.


all 3 of those seems pretty epic fail to me.

[Zhinse]

They've stated that for Crafting leves and quest, they are no longer going to give out all the ingredients for free anymore. That, This new binding system, materia craft. How it all intertwines with each other will be very interesting to test in the coming months.

I don't really know what one considers a good economy or not, but i guess to me, its when i put up farie apples and have them sell to someone who needed it, not so much the amount of money I get out of it.

[Shougun]

They've stated that for Crafting leves and quest, they are no longer going to give out all the ingredients for free anymore. That, This new binding system, materia craft. How it all intertwines with each other will be very interesting to test in the coming months.

I don't really know what one considers a good economy or not, but i guess to me, its when i put up farie apples and have them sell to someone who needed it, not so much the amount of money I get out of it.

I think one of the reasons why they made crafters need mats was because crafters were circumventing gatherers (for leveling). So now gatherers will have a higher demand, and because items will bind after used in action crafters will get more action and because crafters will have a higher demand gathers will have a higher demand. lol


All in all more action.

[darkstarpoet1]

here's the fun part for the non crafters. if you don't craft then the gil changes actually did lower your buying power. with them removing reselling gear once it's used they lowered the supply in the market. when the supply drops and the demand stays the same prices will increase.

who will benefit from the price increase? the crafters.

who will be punished by the price increase? the non crafters.

i am not saying an item that sold for 500k in 1.0 will still be 500k in arr, but i am saying with the same demand and less supply it will not drop to 10% of its previous cost. now an item that sold for 500k before you will likely be looking at 100k after. that has effectively decreased your buying power.