Musketeer Needs a Job

[Altena]

Of course you would think I meant exacly like in XI. No. Edwins attack in IV was a musical note that flew from him to the enemy and did damage, thats why I keep using him as the example of a good model for XIV's bard. A ranged attack with music would be no different than ranged attack with a bow. ARR's bow attacks are AA, Harp/whatever ranged attack would be AA. Same thing with Harp/whatever related weaponskills. The difference is Harp/whatever is more bard than bow.

For the sake of your graphical preference to a job that's already effective, you would make a lot of current BRDs happy. Build an Artemis, then you can have your harp. Again, I would rather shoot stuff to singing an enemy to death.

BRD isn't changing anyway. /end thread derail.

[Nadrojj]

Sorry Shogun, what you're describing, the mechanics you are hoping for sounds to me more like guitar hero than anything. I get it you want the bard to be more musical. In most fantasy genre's bards are scoundrels, with an instrument, a dagger and often times a ranged weapon. In 14 we see a heavy reliance upon the bow and not so much on the musical side, which might bug some people (shogun) who feel they should be singing/playing music the entire time.

I believe somewhere I read that bards will now take out an instrument and play it while they are casting a song, but it will not take up an item/equip space. I haven't played many other mmo's with bards in them besides 11 and 14. I'd say the two are a far cry from each other. In 11 as a bard you basically ran around like a chicken with your head cut off playing songs and/or sleeping/pulling mobs. In 14 I can buff the party then dd. I much prefer being able to do some damage while helping a hand at the same time. I feel this mechanic makes up for the some what low damage output of the bard. I understand where you are coming from, and it might sound selfish but I hope your (Shogun) version of Bard never takes the place of the current Bard mechanics.

Also in regards to musketeer, I'd rather see musketeer move into something like a corsair instead of a red mage type job.

[schism]

I just hope the next ranged class/job actually does DAMAGE!! Archer/Bard is definitely nothing special so hopefully they can do something there. I think Ranger would be nice maybe even a widescan type ability, something different atleast and it's main focus is straight up DD. Archer just doesn't do it for me.

[Medura]

HELLO!!! Pirates?????

Cannoner of course!

Also, considering he uses guns and not swords, thats the way to go. (None of the jobs changes the weapon the class use completely (ranged != meelee etc.)

[LlenCoram]

Throwing in for MSK -> RDM. Not for any particular reason, but just 'cause I think it'd be new and interesting and fun. Casting buffs/debufss on your bullets, magic-powered attacks.

Could even have something like Mami's (from Puella Magi Madoka Magika) Tiro Finale as a 2 hour :P.

[schism]

Brd is fine if you don't like to do much damage and play 5 songs or something. I just remember playing fast walk song, throwing in some crap heals, raising ppl if needed, refreshing, and you can't forget that awesome damage dealing in between all of that. It really needs a facelift for it to attract ppl.

[Shougun]

Brd is fine if you don't like to do much damage and play 5 songs or something. I just remember playing fast walk song, throwing in some crap heals, raising ppl if needed, refreshing, and you can't forget that awesome damage dealing in between all of that. It really needs a facelift for it to attract ppl.

I thought Bard damage was pretty good? If I recall the parser correctly at least. They are a trihybrid though so its easy to be UP - but like I said I dont think that was the case.


You having an ARC can maybe say better, where did your damage fit in?


(btw they have 4 songs, mp, melee, hp, and tp)

[Shougun]

I don't think Archer DD was even close to Bard but you would think it would be. I just don't like how if you wanna go Archer and just do DD you are better off going brd or atleast you want to, so you actually feel like your doing something in your group. Plus if they knew you had BRD there was no way they were letting you go archer lol. I just hope we get a ranger or musketeer that actually focuses on DD.

Ah, I'm hoping for ranger as well I like DD bow class myself (not a partial DD). Its possible they double up the Archer class, bard, ranger. I dont know though I'm not really a fan of the duo system. Though I'm excited to see what changes there are for classes/jobs in beta.

@Reika: <3 lol

Theme and legacy, sad to see them go (there is a theme legacy for western bards but SE's Bard was never a western bard till now)

[schism]

Yea I think lots of ppl want a true range DD and who knows maybe it could even open up duel wielding one day.

Ah, I'm hoping for ranger as well I like DD bow class myself (not a partial DD). Its possible they double up the Archer class, bard, ranger. I dont know though I'm not really a fan of the duo system. Though I'm excited to see what changes there are for classes/jobs in beta.

@Reika: <3 lol

Theme and legacy, sad to see them go (there is a theme legacy for western bards but SE's Bard was never a western bard till now)