Infos on the Real game Direction? WHEN?!

[Duelle]

How PvE endgame will be structured? Hard modes switch? Big raids like Crystal tower and Bahamut labyrinth will be also for 16 - 8 men party? (Any other mmo gives a partecipant switch on raids, 24+ men instanced content are dieing in WoW too, people prefer 10 ppl max party, while the large scale open PvE like dynamic events/ Boss is ok for 25+ ppl). Ranking ? Info on summoning system? Job system revamp? Characters customization like builds, specs ?

The reason 25-man raids are dying in WoW is more because they no longer give different rewards like they used to, and instead give the same rewards. It's why they also unified the raid lockouts instead of giving you a lockout for 10-man and a lockout for 25-man like they used to in WotLK. While it doesn't seem like it, it was Blizzard's choice in item design and implementation of lockouts that's killing 25-man raiding guilds.

(one of the greatest XIV problem is the characters clones. 0 customization.)

Math and theory crafters will always dominate the game. Once the "best" build/spec is discovered, it hits mainstream and everyone uses it. It's the nature of the beast.

I agree that we need more info on the class/job revamps, not to mention information and gameplay videos of arcanist/SMN.

[Orophin]

Fair enough.

My question to you then is this. If FFXIV:ARR gains and keeps all the FFXI and FFXIV 1.0 players that ever played as paying subscribers, would you consider it a success?

I think they'd be ecstatic to gain their subscribers back from box sales alone. (600k+ sales) Remember, FFXI generated them a profit only after about 3 years into the game's life and I don't know if subs had peaked by then or not. I remember reading something that FFXI peaked at 1mil subscribers at some point.

Other niche games have gotten by with much less subscribers and still have been successful. Their ultimate goal is to turn a profit, and if it only requires 100k continuous subscribers to accomplish that, they'll be ok with that. Obviously they want as many people playing their game as possible though.

[Chinook]

They should totally do like 1.0, give out all the game info, without having player's feedback to make adjustments.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

i don't need to know anything of this shit in details.. I just need to know they're in, then i'll let the game talk

[Priya]

This thread has to be a troll one... No one complains about RELEASE-CANDIDATE content for PRE-BETA games and uses that many emoticons to do it...

[GodseijuroHiko]

Just wait till Alpha > just wait till Beta > just wait till it's released > just wait till first patch > . . . . . . . .

And shut up. End of discussion.

[Altena]

A true MMO is never "finalized" or "complete". That's why we have constant patches. If it was "complete" at release, then the game would last 12 months and turn into another F2P MMO.

[Azure_Heaven]

For all those freaking out about no info, Elder Scroll Online is in the process of taking beta applicants and there is almost NO info about the game at all.....

http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/news

So please calm down. Yes, more information would be great. But so would playing the game!

[Tobalito]

For all those freaking out about no info, Elder Scroll Online is in the process of taking beta applicants and there is almost NO info about the game at all.....

http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/news

So please calm down. Yes, more information would be great. But so would playing the game!

On that website, I click on my first video. I got 9:28 worth of tons of info about the game. The world, the setting, the combat, what they were going for, the end goal, PvP. Also they talk about the roles in combat, how to increase stats, how they want people to level (right down to what they want you to think while doing it).

For instances and raiding they show how some of the encounters work ( for example a boss doing earthquake and the party having to avoid etc). PvP, where it takes place and why, as well as some clips of he battle zone and people fighting. At the very end they specifically say how those are the BASICS of the game and how it will function.

I love ARR but the amount of basic things we dont know when the game will be out around the same time as ESO is kind of ridiculous at this point. We have had patience since August of last year, i dont that argument is valid anymore. Again i want to finish off by stating that i say all of this with the upmost respect for everyone working on it and Yoshi-P himself.

[Sorel]

On that website, I click on my first video. I got 9:28 worth of tons of info about the game. The world, the setting, the combat, what they were going for, the end goal, PvP. Also they talk about the roles in combat, how to increase stats, how they want people to level (right down to what they want you to think while doing it).

That is true. The Bethesda/Zenimax team has a metric ton of videos and interviews on what they are doing and why they are doing it. Not so much written down though, just races and faction info. Nothing on classes or abilities, though. So I wouldn't go so far as to say they made more information available than SE.

If ESO didn't have the race/faction restriction, I might even give it a chance. But they do .... and I don't want to get into that here. I'll have that fight on their forums.