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    nothing small or flat about the "Unlimited" Fee, besides unlimited is a premium service and should only be given to those with the money to afford it.
    It's not "premium" here any more than cable TV/digital phone service is.

    If my bandwidth usage reaches absurd levels, like im downloading torrents 24/7, they might have a word with me about that. But there is no set limit or bandwidth threshold.

    My first service provider (dialup) back when the internet was new was unlimited. Every provider we've had since was unlimited- it wasn't a premium service, it was the standard.

    but considering it will cost $15-$20 for every reinstall,
    Burn it to a disc. It's a stretch to argue that's how much it costs you as well because you pay that money whether you use the full 200GB or not.

    I was refering to the download installer method. If you read a little further in my post, I stated If I were able to download an .ISO image, I'd be able to burn it to a disc and install it from that on my other machines.
    Any kind of file, exe installer or otherwise, burns just as easily to a disc as an iso.

    Anyway, people don't seem to get that the intimidate thing was a joke. As I had said, I was quite unaware that flat fee services were harder to come by elsewhere.
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    YEs I think we all know you can burn any kind of file to disc. I think your missing the POINT. If SE gives us just the booter, it's what SE called their patching system, the "install" file will be around 100megs. This file will also be very stupid to burn to disc as it doesn't even install any portion of the actual game. The booter will do the download, instal, then patches. Thus making EVERY reinstall a 20+ gig download.
    An ISO should be a good 4-8gigs per file, assuming it's a DVD ISO, installing a large chunk of the game. Though if they want they can offer a BLUE-Ray ISO that's 25-50 gigs installing the whole game sans the patches. Hell With an ISO you don't even need a disc drive to install the game. Get a program like DAEMON Tools Lite that can set up a virtual drive running the ISO as a disc right off the location of the ISO.
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    I think your missing the POINT. If SE gives us just the booter, it's what SE called their patching system, the "install" file will be around 100megs. This file will also be very stupid to burn to disc as it doesn't even install any portion of the actual game.
    I think you're missing the POINT. SE isn't just going to give you the patcher. And, as I explained clearly in my post, even if they did do this, you could simply install whatever is installed by the initial download, update that one PC, then copy the contents of your game folder to another PC/burn it to a disc and then just use that.

    Then there's also the option of just buying another copy of the game and selling/giving the registration code to someone else, or finding an ISO of the original disc on a torrent somewhere.

    Point is, there are plenty of solutions to this issue.
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    It may not be a problem for some, but that does not mean it isn't a problem for others.

    Personally I don't really have a huge care for having to redownload it as my DL limit is quite large, however it is only large as of 2 months ago (when I finally decided to pay an extra $20 per month). Before 2 months ago I had a 50GB download limit, which I was hitting pretty easily doing daily stuff.

    30GB is a fairly large chunk of some people's bandwidth depending on their plans. I can understand why they won't want to download it every time they have to reinstall.

    The people on here that don't seem to have an issue with a patcher program are on an "unlimited" service, the people on here that do, are obviously not.

    I repeat: If it's not a problem for you, then it doesn't mean it isn't a problem for somebody else in a different situation.
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    It's not even 30 gb its more like 8 because its compressed and later gets expanded when its installed.
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    I still have no idea why this topic went more than a page. There are going to be game discs that you can buy in a store. Is this topic just a bunch of people restating that same damn f**king thing, or what?
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    If I'm not mistaken the patcher reads from it's personal instal information and not at what's actually installed so saving it elsewhere then moving it prob will not work.
    What you do is you install the game (whatever the installer puts on your PC so Windows knows its there) then you copy the existing files you already have and overwrite the stuff you installed- this doesn't mess anything up because you're not alteringe the registry which is what tells windows about what's installed where and certain associated settings. This works with almost any game, and it worked for FFXI.

    I do this whenever I need to reinstall FFXI- I install the game as normal and then I copy my old install over it- After a quick file check I generally don't need to download any updates afterwards- Saving me hours of updating.
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    The people on here that don't seem to have an issue with a patcher program are on an "unlimited" service, the people on here that do, are obviously not.
    Again, you seem to have missed the part about downloading it (and the patches at the time) and burning those to a disc or storing on a portable hard drive or other device so you never have to redownload it.
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    If I'm not mistaken the patcher reads from it's personal instal information and not at what's actually installed so saving it elsewhere then moving it prob will not work. I could be wrong, but FFXIV doesn't seem to have the same data checking FFXI had. But then they could change the booter for ARR so I'll wait for judgement till then.
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    Yes this worked for FFXI, but FFXIV doesn't have a file checker. it's only checks you current patch it installed. So it might not work for FFXIV.
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