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    the space core in portal 2 was so awesome.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFgeustBpFk
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    I thought outer space was where Dragoons went before driving their polearms through a dragons skull?
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    Not sure if anyone put this up yet.
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    Considering we've been to the moon/space in other FF titles, I'm 100% for this. As long as I'm not going up there to do more fetch quests/dailies. One of the most exciting parts of IV for me was going up to the Lunar Subterrane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDEN
    FFVIII was the most space-themed out of all the FF games:




    I was going to suggest FFI and the floating castle. It appeared to be in space in the original NES version...

    ....but in subsequent remakes, it was made clear that it was actually located in the clouds.
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    Going into space doesn't really seem like a proper setting for FF14 at the moment, but if we start delving more into the Garlean empire and actually exploring their territory in-game, utilizing their technology, etc., then I could possibly see it happening. It'd just need a good transition from the midly steampunk/pioneer-ish level we've seen so far, in my opinion.

    Now, on the other hand, I'd LOVE to see some surrealism stages, like FF9's Memoria, or inside the crystal in FF12, etc. Those kinds of areas were always very memorable and unique, and the developers could go nuts with them... but again, there'd need to be some good transitions storyline-wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantasia View Post
    I'm sorry, but this has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Some people really do grasp at straws...
    I'm pretty sure Shinra is just a name they used to reference FFVII, since it's the highest selling FF game to date. It's tantamount to saying that every Cid in every FF game is actually the same person, who has somehow manipulated time and space, along with his physical appearance, so that he can be in every game.


    Edit: Not to mention that the reason the company was called "SHINRA" was due to the president's name... Rufus Shinra
    Mild spoiler alert for FFVII, FFVII Dirge of Cerberus, and X-2:

    First: Your example of Cid is obviously not true (as you've said), but it is true of Gilgamesh. He just can't control his void-drifting. Any instance of Gilgamesh (excluding the XI version and a few others) can be considered canon to the FFV Gilgamesh's story. I really look forward to an instance of Gilgamesh in XIV.

    Second: The thing about Shinra was actually brought up in Final Fantasy X-2 Ultimania. Shinra did mention in X-2 that he wanted to harvest the energy of the farplane, but that plan is never started during the game (unless it's in International, which I haven't played.) The Ultimania series offer official addenda to the original stories, and in many cases can be considered canon. X-2's left this scenario open as a "maybe". Personally I think the Shinra thing is far-fetched - the people of FFVII's world would have had to exist long enough to entirely forget space travel until Cid Highwind rediscovers it, and the name of a young Al-Bhed boy would likely be forgotten before then.

    @Bowen: The seeds of racial integration in FFX-2 allow that Al-Bhed wouldn't readily exclude non-Al-Bhed from joining in their galactic exodus. Also consider Dirge of Cerberus: the Lifestream itself (everyone) can be carried across galaxies to take root in a new planet. Again, I doubt the name Shinra would reemerge from the lifestream.

    Third: Rufus Shinra is the only legitimate son of President Shinra (no first name), who dies early in FFVII. Rufus took over the company within the hour, and the first president is quickly forgotten by the player.


    There you have it. It's one thing to call someone on stretching the truth, but it's another to do so with half-truths of your own. I know X-2 and DoC are far from popular games, but they are canon and far more credible than your dismissive bullshit.

    Edit: Sorry. Digression aside. Space travel would be cool. We've already had something fall from space, so who's to say we won't have a chance to rise up there? For now, however, I'm inclined to believe the sparkly darkness is that glittery powder effect found around the crystal in some of the earlier ARR trailers.

    Anyway, space! Make it happen, devs! If not now, then sometime in the future!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetsaru View Post
    Going into space doesn't really seem like a proper setting for FF14 at the moment, but if we start delving more into the Garlean empire and actually exploring their territory in-game, utilizing their technology, etc., then I could possibly see it happening. It'd just need a good transition from the midly steampunk/pioneer-ish level we've seen so far, in my opinion.

    Now, on the other hand, I'd LOVE to see some surrealism stages, like FF9's Memoria, or inside the crystal in FF12, etc. Those kinds of areas were always very memorable and unique, and the developers could go nuts with them... but again, there'd need to be some good transitions storyline-wise.
    Dont care if you say Shougun sucks interwebs if you mention FF9 Memoria you get cookies.. lol


    Would be unique to see a whole technology shift through the life of FFXIV, like as we are now we start in a steampunk low era but in a few years the cities have vastly changed... I suppose some may tag that as WoW cataclysm but that was more of a sudden event and a natural growth over time would be better - also Death Wing was a push over.. it made no sense he ruined the land that much lol. Illdain could have done more with his pinky.

    (Cities dont need to go Zanarkand for us to go into space of course, we could go to Garlean as enemy or ally to some super event, or be summoned, steal ships w.e, just thought showing an actual growth of the cities over time would be something not really focused on in MMOs which claim to be dynamic but really are much more static)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yrusama View Post
    Mild spoiler alert for FFVII, FFVII Dirge of Cerberus, and X-2:

    First: Your example of Cid is obviously not true (as you've said), but it is true of Gilgamesh. He just can't control his void-drifting. Any instance of Gilgamesh (excluding the XI version and a few others) can be considered canon to the FFV Gilgamesh's story. I really look forward to an instance of Gilgamesh in XIV.

    Second: The thing about Shinra was actually brought up in Final Fantasy X-2 Ultimania. Shinra did mention in X-2 that he wanted to harvest the energy of the farplane, but that plan is never started during the game (unless it's in International, which I haven't played.) The Ultimania series offer official addenda to the original stories, and in many cases can be considered canon. X-2's left this scenario open as a "maybe". Personally I think the Shinra thing is far-fetched - the people of FFVII's world would have had to exist long enough to entirely forget space travel until Cid Highwind rediscovers it, and the name of a young Al-Bhed boy would likely be forgotten before then.

    @Bowen: The seeds of racial integration in FFX-2 allow that Al-Bhed wouldn't readily exclude non-Al-Bhed from joining in their galactic exodus. Also consider Dirge of Cerberus: the Lifestream itself (everyone) can be carried across galaxies to take root in a new planet. Again, I doubt the name Shinra would reemerge from the lifestream.

    Third: Rufus Shinra is the only legitimate son of President Shinra (no first name), who dies early in FFVII. Rufus took over the company within the hour, and the first president is quickly forgotten by the player.


    There you have it. It's one thing to call someone on stretching the truth, but it's another to do so with half-truths of your own. I know X-2 and DoC are far from popular games, but they are canon and far more credible than your dismissive bullshit.

    Edit: Sorry. Digression aside. Space travel would be cool. We've already had something fall from space, so who's to say we won't have a chance to rise up there? For now, however, I'm inclined to believe the sparkly darkness is that glittery powder effect found around the crystal in some of the earlier ARR trailers.

    Anyway, space! Make it happen, devs! If not now, then sometime in the future!
    Um... if you actually read on then you'd see that I actually realised I was wrong on my own, and apologised for my outburst. So thanks for your contribution on accomplishing zilch bar bringing it back up and pointing out your own short-fuse on the topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetsaru View Post
    Going into space doesn't really seem like a proper setting for FF14 at the moment, but if we start delving more into the Garlean empire and actually exploring their territory in-game, utilizing their technology, etc., then I could possibly see it happening. It'd just need a good transition from the midly steampunk/pioneer-ish level we've seen so far, in my opinion.

    Now, on the other hand, I'd LOVE to see some surrealism stages, like FF9's Memoria, or inside the crystal in FF12, etc. Those kinds of areas were always very memorable and unique, and the developers could go nuts with them... but again, there'd need to be some good transitions storyline-wise.
    Yes this was just an idea to throw out to Square and see others opinions on it. I had no intention of them, if done, implementing it right away into the game, that would be silly

    But yea, just the whole space look in general I think is pretty, if we never go to space, I would be fine with it as long as they did something like when you reach the higher levels of Crystal Tower, they setting resembles that of you floating around in space, just like Memoria from 9, good example ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphe View Post


    "Sorf of" space
    HNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG! PRISHE! J/k......that picture brought back a metric ton of memories of not only that fight, but the battle music that goes with it, LOVE that track .
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