So Devs...Are we going to rule with an iron fist this time around?

[Darkillumina]

I'm not too worried about bots, add-ons and RMT. Add-ons are generally just player made utilities to make our life easier, not something programmed to play the game for you.

I lived through the great inflation period of 05/06 in XI. Nothing I've played since, has ever come close to that insanity. A lot of it had to do with design issues that have since been corrected in modern games. Yes, botters will exist in any form in any online game, but will be more annoying than anything else. The way I see it, the days of the RMT literally controlling the economy top to bottom are long gone.

Also though many of you hate to hear it, I highly doubt that 2.0 will rely on timed pops for exclusive mats or gear that can be sold. The days of 8 linkshells competing for a weekly pop are long gone. Sure there will be world spawns but I'd bet that anything of note will be instanced. Also I highly doubt they will have 72 hour spawn windows or any of that nonsense. This itself should lessen the impact of programmed auto-bots.

So yeah, report them, troll them/what have you, but don't worry about it getting to potentially game-breaking levels.

[Altena]

Eh RMT's will always exist in any MMO because some players have the "Pay to Win" mentality. The community is what gives RMT's a market. Stop buying gil and they will go away

[SkyeWindbinder]

Eh RMT's will always exist in any MMO because some players have the "Pay to Win" mentality. The community is what gives RMT's a market. Stop buying gil and they will go away

Or we could just round up gold sellers and the people who buy from them and

SLAY THEM.

[Altena]

Or we could just round up gold sellers and the people who buy from them and

SLAY THEM.

Funny you say that

[SkyeWindbinder]

Funny you say that

I remember that!

It was beautiful!

[Ryokyu]

Funny you say that

lmao yooo altena i see rin there

[mbncd]

I agree with those saying reporting of other players should be more accessible.

It should be possible to either right click on characters (or character names in the chat log) and report them directly that way or have some sort of "copy name" function in their right click menu to access some other in game reporting function and paste the name in that way.

Things like manually typing in nonsense names that are hard to remember and having to go out of the game to make the reports (that after all of that often seem to fall on deaf ears) is why so many don't report half the characters they should, if they can be bothered reporting anyone at all.

Being able to report them from a right click menu or being able to at least copy the offending player's name from the right click menu (and then taking that to an in game reporting interface) would really make a big difference...

[Altena]

This is more of a ToS issue, but what if we were to "influence" them to admit it? As an example:

/tell asdhajksdgasgdasd > "where would I be able to buy gil?"
>> asdhajksdgasgdasd : www.entergilsitehere.com

Would this be classed as "evidence" for the taskforce, yet not incriminate the person asking the question?

[IndigoDarkwolf]

The TOS would probably be interpreted as forbidding you from asking the question in the first place. Even if it weren't, that tactic would be called "entrapment". If I were in charge the reps investigating claims, I wouldn't count it as evidence against either player, though I would probably go ahead and queue both of them for an investigation anyways if I saw a report with that kind of behavior in it.

I am not an RMT investigator or community rep, though. I am a game developer, but I've never worked on an MMO.

[Altena]

The TOS would probably be interpreted as forbidding you from asking the question in the first place. Even if it weren't, that tactic would be called "entrapment". If I were in charge the reps investigating claims, I wouldn't count it as evidence against either player, though I would probably go ahead and queue both of them for an investigation anyways if I saw a report with that kind of behavior in it.

I am not an RMT investigator or community rep, though. I am a game developer, but I've never worked on an MMO.

I will take that as fairly educated input though.

The biggest problem with reporting people that are obviously botting or RMT is the response was always along the lines of insufficient evidence and what not, even though the human eye can physically see that it is not normal human behaviour.