So Devs...Are we going to rule with an iron fist this time around?

[xXHalloweenTrixXx]

Ugh @ how many people do not understand the difference between an addon and a bot. It's surprising you people even figured out how to register and post on these forums.

Hmm... Mad bro?

[MrKupo]

If only there was a way to track dirty money trades, they could put at least temp bans on people that buy from RMTs.

[Dzian]

If only there was a way to track dirty money trades, they could put at least temp bans on people that buy from RMTs.

Something like that could be a relatively simple solution. Simply have a program that flags all trades / transactions that value over a certain threshhold. then have your XIV version of the STF investigate them all.

Ultimately that could end up with a lot of flagged transactions to be checked but for the most part the legitimate ones should be pretty quick to investigate.

It could also be possible to set various threshholds for different transactions. i.e. Maybe 500k for player to player trading to be flagged. But if someone pays 50k for a single water shard then flag it. A system like that would help against RMT a lot.

As for bots / addons I think addons would never take control of your character. In my view an addon would simply be a informative widget on screen that tells me how far away the mob I want to shoot is. Or a percentage readout of a mobs remaining hp. maybe even provides a visual indication of an aoes range. Addons should essentially be informative not decision making.

I would say then that an addon should never take control. i.e "if hp = <50% cast cure" or any other decision making process. IMO that falls under a bot and shouldn't be allowed.

I also they do visibly act alot more to clamp down on and punish botters and other exploiters. a lot of which were so blatently obvious such as casting flare repeatedly to farm steel while afk for several hours.

[mbncd]

Something like that could be a relatively simple solution. Simply have a program that flags all trades / transactions that value over a certain threshhold. then have your XIV version of the STF investigate them all.

Ultimately that could end up with a lot of flagged transactions to be checked but for the most part the legitimate ones should be pretty quick to investigate.

It could also be possible to set various threshholds for different transactions. i.e. Maybe 500k for player to player trading to be flagged. But if someone pays 50k for a single water shard then flag it. A system like that would help against RMT a lot.
[Snip]

I've seen another game track the values of its items in both trade sales and through its version of an official market. The game is then able to recommend the current approximate price of the item to players. It's a very useful service that makes both buying and selling much easier. That sort of system could also help with something like this, flagging drastically uneven trades.

Yes, there will be people wanting to give expensive gifts or moving things to their mules or other things like that, but it would still be good to generally flag that sort of thing for investigation. If it's something innocent, it will likely look decidedly different from RMT in any investigation.

[Ricky]

For all we know they banned all the known bots when 1.0 went down so all their saved up gil is lost! HA HA HA!
Probably not though

[darkstarpoet1]

For all we know they banned all the known bots when 1.0 went down so all their saved up gil is lost! HA HA HA!
Probably not though

now that would be absolutely hilarious and very welcome.

[IndigoDarkwolf]

Huh. I'd never known about /emote motion. More reason for S|E to not expose an API for playing emotes.

[WednesdayEve]

I remember back when I played FFXI, every once in awhile they would show how much gil was taken out of circulation and how many accounts were banned between this date and that date(or was it "this month"). I don't remember but I always felt some comfort in them showing us they were putting in some effort in banning RMT/third party tool users.

[Lucke]

*DISCLAIMER*
I'm not telling SE how to run their business, I don't know the first thing about running a business, but this is just an idea. If it sounds like I'm ordering SE around, I certainly don't mean it, I just don't know how else to explain it.

Ok, so I think SE needs to put in bold letters "BUYING GIL IS AGAINST THE RULES, YOU WILL BE BANNED/SUED/CASRATED/DRAWN AND QUARTERED/etc IF YOU BUY GIL!" instead of that "Don't neglect your school, work, family, goldfish, antfarm, etc".

The RMT stuff is just buried in the EULA which noone bothers to read. I think some, not all but some, of the buyers are just stupid and don't know it's against the rules. You guys should know by now, I think people are morons, I make that clear. It's true to, people are effin MORONS. So, I really think SE should make it abundantly clear that RMT is against their rules. Put that up and FORCE people to acknowledge that it's against SE's rules.

That won't do much though. I remember that a loooong time ago, I started playing EQ. I talked with people whose parents bought them EQ and like 10000plat to start them off. Parents being parents probably didn't realize that was against EQ's EULA. This one I don't think SE can control. We, as the "good guys", have to educate other players to make sure they know so noone can say "DURRRRR I didn't know I couldn't do it". That may stop buyers from buying that crap. I think SE really needs to be more aggressive with bannings so that people will think "Oh gee, I better not buy this million gil cause SE likes to ban people....". SE should create a program, or alter their code that throws up a flag when a person's account gets a mass influx of cash. SE could investigate if that person just got lucky on the markets or if someone traded the gil. That's another idea, SE could record all gil transactions up to a certain point, maybe like a month at a time.

tl;dr version People are STUPID

[HiirNoivl]

tl;dr version People are STUPID

Hehehe. You're really cute!