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    Primal weapons: to upgrade or not?

    With all the new primal fights coming out, assuming all of them drop weapons, I hope older weapons are upgradable to have similar stats as newer primal weapons. For one thing I don't necesarily like collecting every single weapon or gear in the game. By the same token it is sometimes fundamental to obtain new equipment because of stats. Therefore in ARR I hope they implement ways to be able to upgrade things as weapons so that they don't become obsolete like Ifrit's weapons did. Besides, sometimes people really like certain equipment for other reasons than better stats. Please devs let us be able to upgrade some of our weapons and gear!!!!
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    I think SE will obsolete them. There is no way new players can obtain them.

    I was wrong.
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    Last edited by Pseudopsia; 01-31-2013 at 04:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pseudopsia View Post
    I think SE will obsolete them. There is no way new players can obtain them.
    I thought S|E specifically said the primals would still be around, but Nael van Darnus would not?

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    I doubt the new version of primals will drop the same weapons, however I could be wrong.
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    Last edited by Pseudopsia; 01-31-2013 at 04:48 AM.

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    How about if each primal is assigned a stat. You can build your character then however you want. Each weapon is the same in the sense as "Ifrit is the best primal weapon!"

    Ifrit: Fire damage + +STR
    Shiva: Ice Damage + +PIE
    Titan: Earth Damage + +VIT
    Ramuh: Lightning Damage + +INT
    Levi: Water Damage + +MND
    Garuda: Wind Damage + +DEX

    If you are a BRD, you can use either Ifrit's Bow if you want to build your BRD for Damage, you can also choose Garuda's Bow for the added DEX, or you can use Levi's bow to improve your songs. There isn't one uber weapon that you use over the rest. Pick the weapon that mirrors your play-style, or pick a weapon that might improve your weakness.

    Been awhile since I played, I think BRD used PIE too, so they could also use Shiva's bow as well. Obviously, we don't know how the stats will be changed, but hopefully you get the idea.
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    Planned obsolescence is what gives people incentive to get new gear ==> people keep playing game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    How about if each primal is assigned a stat. You can build your character then however you want. Each weapon is the same in the sense as "Ifrit is the best primal weapon!"

    Ifrit: Fire damage + +STR
    Shiva: Ice Damage + +PIE
    Titan: Earth Damage + +VIT
    Ramuh: Lightning Damage + +INT
    Levi: Water Damage + +MND
    Garuda: Wind Damage + +DEX

    If you are a BRD, you can use either Ifrit's Bow if you want to build your BRD for Damage, you can also choose Garuda's Bow for the added DEX, or you can use Levi's bow to improve your songs. There isn't one uber weapon that you use over the rest. Pick the weapon that mirrors your play-style, or pick a weapon that might improve your weakness.

    Been awhile since I played, I think BRD used PIE too, so they could also use Shiva's bow as well. Obviously, we don't know how the stats will be changed, but hopefully you get the idea.
    Why would any WHM want a staff with STR? Why would any WAR want an axe with MND?
    Your solution basically gimps 4 or 5 of the 7 weapons for each primal.
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    Last edited by Rau; 01-31-2013 at 04:30 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pseudopsia View Post
    I doubt the new version of primals will drop the same weapons, however I could be wrong.
    Well they might just change the old weapons to match since they would be using the same model so having different stats wouldn't really make sense specially if the new stats fit the new stat/battle systems better. Of course I am talking about the extra stats I just assumed they would unify the dps>>dmg stats to match the new tiers.
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    What exactly are you suggesting? What would your proposed upgrade process be? Is this just asking for the equivalent of top tier primal weapons without actually beating the top tier primals? Ifrit's weapons were justly obsoleted because Ifrit became too easy.
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    Yes, they said we'll be able to obtain the primals weapon of v1 in ARR on a dev post. If the stats change, it will change on the weapon we already have.
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    /wave Raikki Zero
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