Please get rid of surplus SP

[SeraviEdalborez]

The next person who wants to defend the Fatigue system, please do not dicuss the amount of penalty. For the sake of a healthy discussion, please respond on the points of:

1.) Players who wil not play/quit FFXIV because of fatigue.
2.) The effectiveness of the system in holding back hardcore players.

1) I have no way to respond to this without mentioning that the amount of the penalty is trivial at the first stage. The game is free to play and heavily discounted at retail prices. If you(r friends) don't even want to build yourself up 2 hours a week, I don't know what to say. Chat while crafting.
2) Don't look so much at fatigue not slowing down hardcore player. Look at how increased SP gains help casuals reach their levels faster.

This is the entire reason SE likely went with the more "market-friendly" name of Bonus or Surplus. My philosophy? Enjoy your free subscription and let them experiment with how to fix the system. Twelves know they have far too many suggestions in this vast ocean of posts.

I want to reqoute something I said a few pages back, for emphasis...

Basically, unless you are fatigued on all 18 (19 if you count Sentinel) Disciplines at once, you should probably either rethink how you can spend your time more efficiently, or just grind it out as many do with little, if any, complaint.

This game encourages diversity. The price of unwavering specialization is lack of options AND slower advancement. That's the way the CURRENT SYSTEM is. Until they change it you will have to continue to adapt to it for the next few months.

Not white knighting, or at least not trying to. The idea of fatigue first turned me off to playing but free subscription and seeing how overly exaggerated the flaws (albeit plentiful) were.

[AlmaMalma]

I am Lalafel, and I approve of this message. No more surplus!

[Eclipse]

1. I cannot respond to that. I don't know anyone who quit for that reason.
2. There has to be a negative when gaining skill a consequence, that balances out the game. If we don't have something to conquer some sort of barrier, where is the satisfaction in gaining Ranks.


On Guardians Aspect.
Why do you want Guardian's Aspect removed? If they keep Surplus, GA is the only thing that counter acts it, for the period of a Guildleve.

Then again, if they remove Surplus then keeping GA would be giving us too much.


2. Second, where is the negative? There has to be a balance. In XI you gained, if you died, you lost. Here you gain, if you gain too much you get Surplus or Fatigue and some armor wear. Big deal, I would rather have Surplus / Degrading Armor from massive SPing/Xping then lose SP/XP when I die.

To me that would make it too easy. Find a replacement but just don't say remove this, offer other suggestions. This game is already lacking a sense of accomplishment.

[Dargoth_Draconia]

It is annoying and I hope it gets turned off as well, but face it for the time being, the fact that it is in the game to stop people from having every class to rank 50 before new content comes out. I know several people who have 3 classes at 50 and others all their other classes around 30.

[Dargoth_Draconia]

Also, they need to make it where you have more Guardian Aspect or use less at one time have a set time limit for it like a signet and let you use it on grinding and not just leves.

[Eclipse]

Once again I say there needs to be a balance. If you want it removed then what will replace it? They wont just remove it and make it a jolly walk to rank 50.

[God]

/signed.

What nerve SE must have penalizing players for PLAYING their game.

ONE leve link party is ALL it takes to hit surplus now you're fatigued for the rest of the week, it's another kick in the face like nerfing dobs, quest not giving SP and the reduction in leve link potential with smaller parties.

[God]

Once again I say there needs to be a balance. If you want it removed then what will replace it? They wont just remove it and make it a jolly walk to rank 50.

How is nerfing peoples play with less SP earned, balanced?!

What are you talking about some jolly walk to 50? Getting to 50 is a pain in the ass with SP options available. Grind grass raptors for hours while fatigued or leech others Leves for crap SP when there's not enough links to go around (while fatigued).

[Aveline]

Another comment here to remove surplus, please.

[viion]

I +1 the removal of surplus