ARR ~ Add-on Idea's

[Impulse]

there was an add on for XI the windower, started, like the name suggest, as an alternative to start the game as a window. Anyone who knows it wants it, and i want it.

Unlike XI, XIV had a windowed mode from the start. There's absolutely no need for a windower in this game outside of access to its plugins.

[RowanLauron]

Unlike XI, XIV had a windowed mode from the start. There's absolutely no need for a windower in this game outside of access to its plugins.

Problem was you couldn't alt+tab out of full screen without crashing the game :/ That's all I had an issue with though.

And Wolfie I main a healer so maybe that's why I don't use it as much, but when I did tank in older xpacs I did use it however. Mainly for the ability timers. Never wanted to be caught off guard by something if my mind wandered

And I agree with you about the misconception. There is still a lot of player response needed, just some people don't pay attention even with all the bells and whistles going off. But that's what separates the good from the bad. Helps good players play more effectively, and bad players get found out lol

[Wolfie]

Problem was you couldn't alt+tab out of full screen without crashing the game :/ That's all I had an issue with though.

And Wolfie I main a healer so maybe that's why I don't use it as much, but when I did tank in older xpacs I did use it however. Mainly for the ability timers. Never wanted to be caught off guard by something if my mind wandered

And I agree with you about the misconception. There is still a lot of player response needed, just some people don't pay attention even with all the bells and whistles going off. But that's what separates the good from the bad. Helps good players play more effectively, and bad players get found out lol

It was basically the lowest level of safety net that guilds could enforce because it was easy to install, use, and understand.

It aggregated clear warnings that the boss gave, like emotes and shouts, with timers that had to be thoroughly tested by the top raid guilds (reason why DBM warnings were always 1-3 weeks late after world first kills on bosses).

Functionally it's no different than having a raid lead yell at you over Skype/Mumble/Vent about what you should be doing or paying attention to. No amount of yelling or DBM warnings are going to move your character for you, and you are neither a worse player for following them, nor a better player for ignoring them.

[RowanLauron]

It was basically the lowest level of safety net that guilds could enforce because it was easy to install, use, and understand.

It aggregated clear warnings that the boss gave, like emotes and shouts, with timers that had to be thoroughly tested by the top raid guilds (reason why DBM warnings were always 1-3 weeks late after world first kills on bosses).

Functionally it's no different than having a raid lead yell at you over Skype/Mumble/Vent about what you should be doing or paying attention to. No amount of yelling or DBM warnings are going to move your character for you, and you are neither a worse player for following them, nor a better player for ignoring them.

Yeap I agree. The hard part is making people listen whether it is the addon or a person yelling at you.

If only people would just do that

If there was a DBM for FF what would it be called...EBB...Eorzea Battle Basics? XD terrible name :<

[Impulse]

Problem was you couldn't alt+tab out of full screen without crashing the game :/ That's all I had an issue with though.

Hence why I played with the included windowed mode. If window borders were an issue, there are/were plenty of ways to hide them without a windower. Only time I'd see anything other than the game itself is when I alt-tabbed.



Either way, a windower in ARR is completely pointless with Fullscreen (Windowed) likely being a built-in option and tabbing out of fullscreen not crashing the game, outside of wanting to use plugins which SE has no control over other than temporarily breaking them in a patch.

[RowanLauron]

Hence why I played with the included windowed mode. If window borders were an issue, there are/were plenty of ways to hide them without a windower. Only time I'd see anything other than the game itself is when I alt-tabbed.



Either way, a windower in ARR is completely pointless with Fullscreen (Windowed) likely being a built-in option and tabbing out of fullscreen not crashing the game, outside of wanting to use plugins which SE has no control over other than temporarily breaking them in a patch.

Btw I love your sig lol

Yeah when I was playin 14 full time I was full screen windowed. I was mainly referring to my old FFXI days and early 14. For me it doesn't matter either way now that I have a nexus pad so I don't need to alt tab anymore to look stuff up

[RowanLauron]

Hopefully the UI and other features will be sufficient without add-ons but we'll see.

I mainly use add-ons as a cosmetic feature IE: new ui looks, different unit frames, text colors/fonts

Rarely do I use add-ons that affect gameplay. Except some sort of parser. I like to know what my output is or even my intake of damage if I'm tanking.

[Wolfie]

Oh man, another addon thread. Half of it is people who are completely in the dark about WOW addon history, cause, and usage complaining about how they ruined WOW and would ruin FFXIV.

[RowanLauron]

Oh man, another addon thread. Half of it is people who are completely in the dark about WOW addon history, cause, and usage complaining about how they ruined WOW and would ruin FFXIV.

For example the recent raid tiers have been tuned with DBM in mind. It's such a popular addon that is completely uneccessary yet the players still require people to have it or you are not aloud in their raids.

Basically what it does: it adds timers and alerts to your UI so you can see when a boss or special monsters are about to use their abilities. Also lets you know if you we standing in "bad stuff" like fire or something on the ground that is hurting you.

It's a nice add-on, but it takes some of the fun out of the game IMO. You let the addon do all the work so you can stand there and focus on your damage and nothing else. The players don't pay attention to mechanics or don't learn the fights therefore making it harder on everyone.

Some addons are nice though like Healbot. It's creates a small set of unit frames and allows you to bind spells to certain keys or combinations of keys, allowing you to use the spell on whoever you are moused over. Again it's not necessary, but it can be helpful by keeping your teammates health bars condensed in an easy to read frame.

My main addon I used was one that completely recustomized my ui and fonts. The default one was ugly, but it worked, so for me it was mainly for cosmetics and easier to read. (I used healbot myself, and not using DBM makes the boss fights real fun )

[Wolfie]

That's kind of a common misconception about DBM.

You need to learn boss mechanics and what to do, because Blizzard designed the fights with DBM in mind. That's why almost every WOW fight requires player movement, smart use of interrupts and CDs, situational awareness, and knowing when and how to change targets.

DBM is not going to move your character out of a fire or interrupt a boss spell for you. The people who simply try to be top DPS without paying attention to anything rarely make top DPS because they die early, or they never get past the first one or two boss fights in a raid.

Trust me when I say that DBM didn't make things easier. I played WOW for 5 years at the bleeding edge of raiding, both as a primary tank and as the class lead/top 5 DPS in the guild.