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  1. #21
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    If any one gets into an AMD vs Intel debate they are pretty much morons. If the performance was limited by the CPU the low res and high res scores will be nearly the same. There is a wide gap between his low and high res scores, which indicate the GPU is limiting the performance.

    A SSD will show no difference in the benchmark since the benchmark is a very small size that can be loaded entirely into memory. A SSD will do wonders for load times in the actually game since it's very large.

    If you want to see where your GPU ranks in general game performance check the following link:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ew,3107-7.html

    You will notice that a HD 7770 is only one step up from a GTX 260. 2X GTX 260 is faster than a single HD 7770 if you have SLI working correctly in full screen. Benchmark doesn't allow full screen, however someone made a DLL to force full screen(google "Ff14bfull-100618.Zip", extract and place DLL in the data folder containing the config.ini and FFXivWinBenchmark.exe files). Your new motherboard supports SLI so I suggest you put those 2X GTX 260 back in or buy another HD 7770. You pretty much downgraded your graphics performance going to a single HD 7770.
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    Last edited by Pseudopsia; 01-27-2013 at 05:59 AM.

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    The problem is that people falsely assume that getting a new generation GPU/CPU will give them a significant boost. Truth is, if they stay in the same range (low/mid/high), the differences will be quite minor, especially with hardware not making that many jumps lately. An example: I'm still using my 260GTX, and for most MMOs it's still enough to run them at least at 30 fps maxed, with some dips in crowded areas. As for CPU limitations, my old Phenom II X4 still has to encounter a game that maxed it out. My brother uses a similar system, but has a core quad instead of a phenom and his GPU is not factory overclocked. There is no difference in performance between our setups except for me having a SSD.

    ARR might be a bit more demanding than an average mmo, but surely not as bad as 1.0 was, I hope. The benchmark is around the corner, so is the beta so imho you should waited till then before upgrading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    The problem is that people falsely assume that getting a new generation GPU/CPU will give them a significant boost. Truth is, if they stay in the same range (low/mid/high), the differences will be quite minor, especially with hardware not making that many jumps lately. An example: I'm still using my 260GTX, and for most MMOs it's still enough to run them at least at 30 fps maxed, with some dips in crowded areas. As for CPU limitations, my old Phenom II X4 still has to encounter a game that maxed it out. My brother uses a similar system, but has a core quad instead of a phenom and his GPU is not factory overclocked. There is no difference in performance between our setups except for me having a SSD.

    ARR might be a bit more demanding than an average mmo, but surely not as bad as 1.0 was, I hope. The benchmark is around the corner, so is the beta so imho you should waited till then before upgrading.
    I can see why you would say wait and i should have in hindsight but its a project i intend on maxing out over time.

    Out of curiosity i swapped in my two 260s and got a score of 5700 on low which is the kinda bump i was looking for. so maybe the CPU, board, and ram are ok i just gotta splash on the better card to have it a little future proof.
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    I'm planning on getting a second GTX550ti for ARR
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    The old benchmark was biased to NVidia Cards. Since you've gone AMD, you can't take any numbers it spat out seriously.

    We've also been told that the game has been designed to run on lower end graphics cards. This means that the limiting factor for ARR will not be graphics capabilities but processing capabilities, so good on you for pumping up the processor.
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    your last pc SLI GPU total can beat HD7770(HD7770 consider entry/mid GPU) but not 7850, any chance change it to HD7850?
    Low Res : CPU > GPU
    High Res (1080p) : GPU > CPU
    in this case, your old pc GPU really helps a lot on High Res benchmark.


    according nvidia own gpu chart, single GTX260 not so far behind GTX650.
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    Last edited by Leo_Hart; 01-27-2013 at 11:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    Things like this, is what I was referring to.



    Regardless your new pc is strong.
    Don't worry about it.. ^^
    I didn't mean my comment like that. I meant its the best bang for buck and AMD is known as such for being an easier upgrade path for consumers. I hate AMD, and I'm complimenting them, no war here. Move along.
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    Nice rig - as a lot have people have already stated; the only thing that needs upgrading to give you a beast of a setup is the GPU... To be honest though if you run the two older cards in SLI you will be golden for ARR...

    Good places to check out where your GPU or CPU stand in the rankings (easy to read list with scores and prices) are;

    GPU
    Here

    CPU
    Here

    Have fun with your new rig and see you in ARR ^^
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  10. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedidev View Post
    I can see why you would say wait and i should have in hindsight but its a project i intend on maxing out over time.

    Out of curiosity i swapped in my two 260s and got a score of 5700 on low which is the kinda bump i was looking for. so maybe the CPU, board, and ram are ok i just gotta splash on the better card to have it a little future proof.
    Yeah, nothing wrong with that I suppose. The new CPU and RAM are more future-proof than your old ones anyway. But buying that GPU if you plan to replace it with a better one anyway... why not use your 2x260 in the meantime instead?

    I actually wanted to get myself a second 260GTX, but the power consumption and the fact ffxiv didn't scale properly (=no performance increase) made me decide against it. Now that the devs said ARR will scale better with SLI, it could make sense to get one after all.
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    What most people are forgetting that are defending the purchase is that Raedon and NVIDIA cards work differently for graphics. So the GTX260s in SLi were better than the newer 7770s.

    And no one is being harsh I think. OP asked for our opinion and we're just giving it. Otherwise OP I would just hang tight with what you have and wait as was mentioned for the new benchmark.
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