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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    That's the point, you have to "turn" around. You don't magically flip directions.

    But the reality of the point your trying to make is moot.

    Flipping your camera via mouse is just as fast as a button seriously...it's not some task that requires years of practice and ultimate dexterity that you seem to be making it out as.

    Your "Rear targeting" skills will be thwarted just as often if we had free reign over our character movements, and thankfully be able to not become nacious from the hillarious ammounts of camera flipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    But the reality of the point your trying to make is moot.

    Flipping your camera via mouse is just as fast as a button seriously...it's not some task that requires years of practice and ultimate dexterity that you seem to be making it out as.

    Your "Rear targeting" skills will be thwarted just as often if we had free reign over our character movements, and thankfully be able to not become nacious from the hillarious ammounts of camera flipping.
    There's an actual difference, which you seem to ignore. Very few, in comparison to all people who would play a given game, can actually spin their character around that quickly, and face in the direction they want most or all of the time. Flipping the stick in reverse is far simpler and quicker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Flipping the stick in reverse is far simpler and quicker.
    Why does this sound like your argument is going in a hillarious direction?

    Either way I stand by my point being a player who has done both in many games, it's not as big an issue as your making it out to be. It's a shame that your argument cruxes around such a slipshod point. Your basically telling me that Mouse turning is superior because a majority of people (This assumption is terribly false by the way) can't control their character the way they want to control them?

    Lord is me, the day that everyone can actually control their character without disco dancing with their camera is the day PVP and "Hardcore" content dies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Why does this sound like your argument is going in a hillarious direction?

    Either way I stand by my point being a player who has done both in many games, it's not as big an issue as your making it out to be. It's a shame that your argument cruxes around such a slipshod point. Your basically telling me that Mouse turning is superior because a majority of people (This assumption is terribly false by the way) can't control their character the way they want to control them?

    Lord is me, the day that everyone can actually control their character without disco dancing with their camera is the day PVP and "Hardcore" content dies.
    I've done both as well. I also never stated one was superior to the other, just that depending on the game, it can cause issues. I even stated it likely WON'T be an issue in this game. To me, the act of being able to instantly switch a full 180 degrees without actually turning, is wrong.

    As a side note, I'm not calling for a change, I never do that for a game. If the game gets to the point I feel my dislikes outweigh my likes, I don't play. I don't try to force my view on others, I however will point out my opinions and why I have them. Who knows, maybe someone never thought of it my way.
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    meanwhile, in an alternate dimension...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Flipping your camera via mouse is just as fast as a button seriously...it's not some task that requires years of practice and ultimate dexterity that you seem to be making it out as.

    Your "Rear targeting" skills will be thwarted just as often if we had free reign over our character movements, and thankfully be able to not become nacious from the hillarious ammounts of camera flipping.
    i find it hard to believe most of you are functional adults in real life
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    meanwhile, in an alternate dimension...



    i find it hard to believe most of you are functional adults in real life
    To be fair, I know what he means about being nauseous. Turning 180 irl for some people is not the same as in a game, related to motion sickness iirc.
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    Player Jynx's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    i find it hard to believe most of you are functional adults in real life
    Really now, nothing nice to say do you?

    Eithe way Ispano we will just need to agree to disagree, we both prefer the controls we prefer and there isn't anything wrong with that. Hopefully the developers allow both to co-exist in some way, I understand your issues with the implications of PVP-PVE content but I guess the concern just isn't as strong for me I much prefer being able to "Flip around" I just can't wrap my head around how it bothers you though hell we had better animation for turning in 1.0 than wow even tried to make turning look.

    Now it is howver a shame that those fluid animations no longer exist and character will just litterally flip around now...shame really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Hopefully the developers allow both to co-exist in some way
    I assure you, wait for beta and you'll be surprised

    P.S This comment is not directly towards you, its towards everyone
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