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[V3rdict]

I played with both controller and keyboard. I didn't see much of a difference, and I just can't understand the big deal with people who freak over the controllers...it's the same thing, except you have limited buttons. Anyways, that's not the point. The point is...

[Starlord]

I played with both controller and keyboard. I didn't see much of a difference, and I just can't understand the big deal with people who freak over the controllers...it's the same thing, except you have limited buttons. Anyways, that's not the point. The point is...

Annnnnnd! That's Your "Verdict" XD

[Zehira]

I played with both controller and keyboard. I didn't see much of a difference, and I just can't understand the big deal with people who freak over the controllers...it's the same thing, except you have limited buttons. Anyways, that's not the point. The point is...

No, the point is... this thread should be on hold until beta. o_o;

[Pseudopsia]

No, the point is... this thread should be on hold until beta. o_o;

I agree. Beta will probably support both types of movements. You probably will able to switch to controller UI and use keyboard and mouse just like FFXIV 1.0.

This topic drives me nuts because of people who are not used to using either using standard keyboard/mouse mmorpg controls, console controller controls, or got used to using keyboard/mouse in FFXI/FFXIV. They can't see the other people point of view.

What I found:
- Movement relative to character is best with keyboard/mouse. This is ARR Alpha behavior.
- Movement relative to camera is best with controller. This is FFXIV 1.0 behavior.

[Klefth]

And going back to my point, flipping the screen is inferior to simply running away from the direction you were facing. It takes pressing something unnecessary -then you get to watch as your screen wraps you around.. which is arguably jarring if you do it often. And then you can begin running away.

All of that is inferior (meaning slower, more annoying) to hitting a direction and your character running that way.

The thing is, it actually does take less to do that on a keyboard than it does on a gamepad. Likewise, moving the way 1.0 or console games do on a keyboard is more tiresome. You try moving like that on a keyboard, and you'll have 3 of your fingers dancing around your WASD keys, while with the standard keyboard/mouse movement controls it could take only one key and a movement of the mouse with your other hand.

I definitely can see how it is nicer for keyboard and mouse users, but being mostly a gamepad user I can also see why it's pretty uncomfortable on a gamepad. That's why I hope they'll deliver both options (which apparently they might).

[Catapult]

Oh my.

If it isn't semantics, it's aesthetics. I'm just gonna go play the game...

[SkyeWindbinder]

Hmm... Well I primarily played with the controller during 1.0. Not sure how backpedaling will be with the controls...

I'll just wait and see when the game comes out.

[Zehira]

I'll just wait and see when the game comes out.

Wait, you are not over 18 age to be in beta...?

I am not sure what your point is though.

[SkyeWindbinder]

Wait, you are not over 18 age to be in beta...?

I am not sure what your point is though.

Not over 18 age!? Beta!? Hunh?

[Altena]

Maybe for K/M users it would be bearable, but what about those of us who use keyboard only? (well in 1.x)..

I can imagine it being a pain in the butt to rotate the camera a full 180 degrees before you can run away if playing without a mouse.. Tbh 1.x controls were godlike.