Please give us more updates!

[Kazahashi]

I'll chalk this up with no one truely u nderstanding how games are made, the process of of things.

Chalk it up all you want to.

I'm going to school for game design, I'm also working on a small PSN/XBL action RPG in my off-time with like minded people....and on top of that I've also kept tabs on the industry since it's infancy.

It's bad to not say anything when the game is near death....do you realize that? If a ship is sinking, are you going to tell people what you're doing currently to save it, or when it "should" be fixed, or are you just going to sit back, pour a glass of Brandy, and watch it sink?

SE doesn't rely on investors, and is spending their OWN money to fund the game now. The game has no monthly fee....currently SE is wasting money, and I'd assume they're wasting it rather quickly, and that it's a rather large sum. They need to do more than what they are in order to stave off the inevitable.

Timeline is a very bad idea because if they encounter problems and can't stick to the Timeline, then people get all pissy and b**** and moan.

They had to redesign the battle system... give them a god damned break.

I don't know of ANYONE that would b**** and moan if SE gave a date that could be moved around as needed....like "we hope to have this done by this time, and that could vary by 2 weeks to a month, but it's coming".....I think the people saying a timeline is bad are the ones that don't understand game development. Even the almighty Blizzard comes out and says "We hope to have this out by x time" and yea, it always usually gets pushed back, but no one complains or whines, because they at least get a timeline on things to come, etc.

And again, when a game is sinking you can't sit back and not give a timeline on anything, because people will get fed up and leave, which is what's happening now. There's such a large amount of people that didn't come back once the servers came back on, it's ridiculous....and from everyone I've spoken to that's quit....not having a timeline, and getting sick of waiting around is why they left, and have moved on to other games without looking back for even a second.

[Aramil]

Personally I think they should just update this when they add/change something that's on the list.

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...816df108bbfbf4

[Kaedan]

That's absolutely true.

Go to GameFAQs. Three months ago there were people whining, and lots of trolls, but there was also the dedicated following of people that helped others, talked about the game, and were generally positive. Now, those people have either given up, or just left outright, and all that's left there now is nothing but trolls and maybe one or two new people that don't know any better.

Or they're like me and A) starting posting almost exclusively in the Official forums, where it will do good and B) realized that talking with trolls is useless.

I'm going to school for game design, I'm also working on a small PSN/XBL action RPG in my off-time with like minded people....and on top of that I've also kept tabs on the industry since it's infancy.

Yeah, yeah, everyone is a game development expert or studying to be one.

It's bad to not say anything when the game is near death....do you realize that? If a ship is sinking, are you going to tell people what you're doing currently to save it, or when it "should" be fixed, or are you just going to sit back, pour a glass of Brandy, and watch it sink?

SE doesn't rely on investors, and is spending their OWN money to fund the game now. The game has no monthly fee....currently SE is wasting money, and I'd assume they're wasting it rather quickly, and that it's a rather large sum. They need to do more than what they are in order to stave off the inevitable.

For one, the game is not near death. People have actually started coming back. So your "sinking ship" analogy is worthless. But even if the ship was sinking, they aren't "sitting back doing nothing". They are working to save it and they don't want to panic the passengers.

[Ayerc]

If you want a vague timeline, then here:

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...bbc24abc29469f

Edit: Same thing Aramil posted, my bad, sir.

[Kazahashi]

Yeah, yeah, everyone is a game development expert or studying to be one.

*clap*

Way to call someone out without even knowing a damn thing about them. When you can program in three different languages, and model 3D models in Maya as well as other programs, come talk to me about not knowing anything.

Secondly, my opinions and viewpoints hold true, regardless of what you think you might know. I've made characters on nearly every server to try and find one with PEOPLE, and honestly, even Figaro (current one) is nothing like it used to be....if you think people are coming back, I'd love to know what game you're playing.

[Kaedan]

Secondly, my opinions and viewpoints hold true, regardless of what you think you might know. I've made characters on nearly every server to try and find one with PEOPLE, and honestly, even Figaro (current one) is nothing like it used to be....if you think people are coming back, I'd love to know what game you're playing.

Oh really? So why didn't you respond to my comments that refute your "viewpoint". You have no right to speak to the amount of people coming back since you don't play. And you didn't even comment when I told you why fansite numbers have dropped.

*clap*

Way to call someone out without even knowing a damn thing about them. When you can program in three different languages, and model 3D models in Maya as well as other programs, come talk to me about not knowing anything.

I could give a rat's ass about what you claim your qualifications are. It doesn't matter when what you're claiming A) has nothing to do with your "qualifications" and B) is erroneous.

[Kaedan]

Oh look. Another person who doesn't play trying to make a claim as to the population of the game. Have fun with TERA (I assume that's what's happening on April 19th?)



Here's your timeline Belgian:

If you want a vague timeline, then here:

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...bbc24abc29469f

Edit: Same thing Aramil posted, my bad, sir.

[Kazahashi]

Oh really? So why didn't you respond to my comments that refute your "viewpoint". You have no right to speak to the amount of people coming back since you don't play. And you didn't even comment when I told you why fansite numbers have dropped.

I could give a rat's ass about what you claim your qualifications are. It doesn't matter when what you're claiming A) has nothing to do with your "qualifications" and B) is erroneous.

So basically you're just a know-it-all that thinks he can refute anyone's viewpoints cause you obviously work directly with SE right??

And when in the hell did I say I didn't play? Are you blind? I just said I started again on Figaro....apparently you need to get your eyes checked. I have every right to comment on anything in the game, considering that not only do I still play, but I spent money on it as well, as I'm sure everyone else here did. When you buy a product and use it, and it's not up to snuff, you do, in fact, have the right to voice your opinion about it. Take your high and mighty ass elsewhere.

Lastly, I gave my qualifications because you seemed to feel the need to act like a jerk and make it sound like I was just blowing smoke and being one of the "wannabes" that really don't know anything about what they're spouting.

[BelgianRofl]

Kaedan, I play ffxiv. I have a second character on Besaid. It's foolish to say that the servers are somewhat populated. Limsa and Gridania are virtually empty. There are maybe 3-4 people at a camp (mostly crafters). The game is headed downhill whether you like it or not.

[Grit]

While I agree with most of your points Belgian, I wish that you would speak for yourself more often.. and not make the same thread 20 times to get your point across. It makes the rest of us look bad.

Daily timeline updates can't be expected of any MMO team, and I'm happy with what Yoshi-P has presented us with so far, despite the ongoing disaster recovery in Japan. And as stated in his most recent letter, he is still measuring the strengths and weaknesses of his team members, rendering him unable to give us an accurate time-line for many planned implementations.

It's not as if your posting this thread will somehow jump-start the development process.. they are already working their asses off to be sure.