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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I must be color blind because I dont see purple in the face lol - or green anywhere XD

    What do you think of the concept art?

    I agree with Kitten that she looks a bit like a young rebellious teen- in model form, I feel the concept art isnt that way.
    Lol, no no no. I mean she is saying it doesn't matter what color they make it, she doesn't like the look of the face. (At least I'm pretty sure, again feel free to correct me if I am wrong)

    I think the concept is ok, I feel like the overall silhouette gives off a "I'm a B**ch vibe" (Please excuse the language) The turned up nose doesn't help with this. However it could be interpreted as "Proud" or a sense of "Authority" "Rule over... " " Don't get in my way" "Arrogant" To be totally honest I don't know how to explain it. It just doesn't have the "grace" that a lot of the other shivas display in the series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoen View Post
    Lol, no no no. I mean she is saying it doesn't matter what color they make it, she doesn't like the look of the face. (At least I'm pretty sure, again feel free to correct me if I am wrong)

    I think the concept is ok, I feel like the overall silhouette gives off a "I'm a B**ch vibe" (Please excuse the language) The turned up nose doesn't help with this. However it could be interpreted as "Proud" or a sense of "Authority" "Rule over... " " Don't get in my way" "Arrogant" To be totally honest I don't know how to explain it. It just doesn't have the "grace" that a lot of the other shivas display in the series.
    Your following me exactly.. every summon usually looks a little different.. but this is drastic.. if we keep coming up with drastic changes like this.. one day you will NEVER be able to compare one final fantasy to another.. you would only be able to say... yeah.. final fantasy 40 also has a blue woman... but shes 2 feet tall and 500 pounds.. just like somone else said.. if you take a chocobo and give it arms.. you can call it a chocobo.. but that sort of change is so great its not going to be a final fantasy chocobo anymore... but if you take a chocobo and give it different highlights.. that sort of change is very minor..
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittenStomper View Post
    Your following me exactly.. every summon usually looks a little different.. but this is drastic.. if we keep coming up with drastic changes like this.. one day you will NEVER be able to compare one final fantasy to another.. you would only be able to say... yeah.. final fantasy 40 also has a blue woman... but shes 2 feet tall and 500 pounds.. just like somone else said.. if you take a chocobo and give it arms.. you can call it a chocobo.. but that sort of change is so great its not going to be a final fantasy chocobo anymore... but if you take a chocobo and give it different highlights.. that sort of change is very minor..
    There is no template of Shiva or any of the Primals FFXIV's, Ifrit doesn't look anything like FFVII's same goes for the rest in every single game . what you are doing is insulting FFXIV's artist on his take of the Primals
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    There is no template of Shiva or any of the Primals FFXIV's, Ifrit doesn't look anything like FFVII's same goes for the rest in every single game . what you are doing is insulting FFXIV's artist on his take of the Primals
    I disagree with you and if the FFXIV artist cant accept criticism then that person has growing up to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoen View Post
    Lol, no no no. I mean she is saying it doesn't matter what color they make it, she doesn't like the look of the face. (At least I'm pretty sure, again feel free to correct me if I am wrong)

    I think the concept is ok, I feel like the overall silhouette gives off a "I'm a B**ch vibe" (Please excuse the language) The turned up nose doesn't help with this. However it could be interpreted as "Proud" or a sense of "Authority" "Rule over... " " Don't get in my way" "Arrogant" To be totally honest I don't know how to explain it. It just doesn't have the "grace" that a lot of the other shivas display in the series.

    Oh well I have failed reading it then - Kitten clarified you are correct lol.

    With the model I feel very similar a "I'm a haughty teen", its in her nose (up), eyes (sharp) and eye brows (raised) - as well has having a very sharp face. I like the concept art, It does vary from the usual Shiva but I could guess that was Shiva. The concept art (which is small and of one perspective so its a little hard to fully evaluate) looks more mystical to me - still "cold, and proud" but not like rebellious teen (which isnt very mystical, just want to slap lol).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Oh well I have failed reading it then - Kitten clarified you are correct lol.

    With the model I feel very similar a "I'm a haughty teen", its in her nose (up), eyes (sharp) and eye brows (raised) - as well has having a very sharp face. I like the concept art though. It does vary from the usual Shiva but I could guess that was Shiva. The concept art (which is small and of one perspective) looks more mystical to me - still "cold, and proud" but not like rebellious teen (which isnt very mystical, just want to slap lol).
    you got it now man, this is what im saying. The concept art says shiva to me.. the 3d model says short teenager/pixie like woman with an attitude... which is not shiva.. not mystical, as you said.

    Shiva may look like she has some sort of attitude.. but its a sexy attitude, this thing might have an attitude.. but based on her facial features it would look like the kind you get from "my sweet 16' off of MTV.. and that's not sexy.. that's annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittenStomper View Post
    you got it now man, this is what im saying. The concept art says shiva to me.. the 3d model says short teenager/pixie like woman with an attitude... which is not shiva.. not mystical, as you said.

    Shiva may look like she has some sort of attitude.. but its a sexy attitude, this thing might have an attitude.. but based on her facial features it would look like the kind you get from "my sweet 16' off of MTV.. and that's not sexy.. that's annoying.
    Every summon is re-imagined for each final fantasy to some extent this one is no different. They have gone out of their way to make sure of this. Personally my favorite version of Shiva was from 10 with the dreds <3. People need to stop asking for reruns of the old stuff from past games. Think about it ... If Shiva was the exact same from FF1 to now you would be more than sick of looking at her and I'm sure she will be appearing a few more titles to come. Take it for what it is you either like it or you don't because at this point I really don't see them changing anything major on the models other than the colors. Nit picking Shiva cause you think she gives off the wrong vibe is crazy to me, Especially when it's not a finished product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoen View Post
    Lol, no no no. I mean she is saying it doesn't matter what color they make it, she doesn't like the look of the face. (At least I'm pretty sure, again feel free to correct me if I am wrong)

    I think the concept is ok, I feel like the overall silhouette gives off a "I'm a B**ch vibe" (Please excuse the language) The turned up nose doesn't help with this. However it could be interpreted as "Proud" or a sense of "Authority" "Rule over... " " Don't get in my way" "Arrogant" To be totally honest I don't know how to explain it. It just doesn't have the "grace" that a lot of the other shivas display in the series.
    The TV trope of the "Defrosting Ice Queen", now with a literal queen of ice with no defrosting.
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