Shiva model!

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Oh just STFU already...if it was anything like you keep saying even when evidence of the contrary is adamant, so many people wouldn't be raging over not been legacy members...people have figured out the game IS GOOD and is nowhere near a clone of nothing. You simply can't be taken seriously when you insist in comparing Yoshida's process to tanaka's in 1.0 they are not alike in the slightest

To be fair, you and your white knighting are just about as annoying, if not more.

At least her more realistic (or rather pessimistic) attitude is somewhat understandable and easier to agree with at times. Especially considering the position of this genre of games atm, and the direction in which all of them seem to be going.

Keeping your expectations lower and being a little more realistic is definitely much healthier in the long run than exalting anything and everything SE does. Less chances you'll be disappointed later on and such, you know?