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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    Model itself won't be changed ...do you really bitch and moan every new FF is released and all Primals look different AGAIN?
    Why some people don't get it there is no such thing as "not Shiva enough" or music isn't "FF enough" ..that is the most stupid statement i have ever seen go read the fan-made magazine thread about FF's history to find out how many different art directors FF games have had , each of them with a different way of thinking.....seriously some people
    Well, I want add on top of what you said that this is why FF has so many fans and not all of them agree which FF is the best! The variety for good or bad is what keeps FF interesting besides another Roman Numeral! It's just enough the same to be familiar to fans but enough different to be worth purchasing again for a new story, art and yes gameplay!

    You can't fault SE for not being innovative! Even if it is to their own detriment! lol But that is all part of the risk of being innovative. You either hit it big or go home with nothing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoen View Post
    I'm not really concerned, FFX Shiva has always been my fav, they are going to be hard pressed to make a better one in my opinion and when I say better I mean one that I like more.

    FF8 was the best she was much more elegant and elfish.. i liked that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    There is no template of Shiva or any of the Primals FFXIV's, Ifrit doesn't look anything like FFVII's same goes for the rest in every single game . what you are doing is insulting FFXIV's artist on his take of the Primals
    I disagree with you and if the FFXIV artist cant accept criticism then that person has growing up to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamba View Post
    I have not really talked about the colour in my posts (maybe in the very 1st one on a side sentence), I have always just said that I dont like her face and her eyes. Maybe they will be changed, maybe they wont. It's all speculation.
    Oh, well then yeah, if you don't like the model, you don't like the model.
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    This Shiva actually look like an Ice Queen. Although I like the Shiva in past FF games that is not XIII (wtf were you thinking S-E?) I think I like this Shiva the best, in fact I think I prefer the design for all Primals in ARR over the other FF games.

    Edit: I have learned that you need to spell it out when it's just your opinion on this forum. This is just my opinion and no one have to agree with it.
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    For those who think her face looks strange or w/e, remember that texturing will have a drastic impact on the final look.

    We all know from experience that a variety of looks that can be achieved with different coloring techniques on the same face.


    Also, please realize that the zbrush sculpt we saw and the in-game model are completely separate models.

    The zbrush sculpt will be only be used for generating Normal/AO/etc. maps for the in-game model. (although it could also be used as a foundation for making 3d figures, or re-purposed for CG sequences).

    The in-game Shiva is seperate low(er)-poly model, and it is being colored and textured entirely separately with shaders built for the new engine.

    As far as the proportions go, I commented on this earlier. Don't forget that she will be giant in this game. Once you see her at full scale and from a lower angle, the proportions should even out nicely due to the perspective.

    See Michelangelo's David for a RL example of this effect.



    TL : DR? Focus on the concept art. It's almost exactly what she will look like when finished.
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    Last edited by Zantetsuken; 01-25-2013 at 02:39 AM.

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    This Shiva is hot she not a skinny slut this time around those legs are yummy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    This Shiva is hot she not a skinny slut this time around those legs are yummy.
    She is dominatrix this time around lol.

    Although I never thought slut from Shiva's other models she was too tribal and mystic for that thought - more of a "I dont need this extra clothes crap".

    Obviously they are mixing it up here, she does have some sexy thighs, cant say I'm a huge fan for the armor BUT I'm not against it either - the face does bother me but that's just feedback**. And just like Garuda if they do it in context I guess it can work, since so far all the primals have been pretty dick like - Shiva being a haughty biaotch could fit lol.

    ** (Zan said concept art is likely finish look - I like the concept art face so.. sounds good )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulan View Post
    For those that don't know, ZBrush is a supplumental tool set (though they have been trying to push to becoming a fully fledged, self-contained kit) for 3D modeling primarily used to create normal maps. ZBrush is somewhat unique in that the model behaves more like a lump of clay than a descrete set of polygons.

    Rather than adjusting individual verticies or lines or faces of the model (the standard way to manipulate models in Maya or 3DMax), ZBrush lets you sculpt the model as if it were clay or putty (it then behind the scenes calculates what verticies need to go where to make the model you sculpted). It's a much more fluid mode for modeling for anyone who started their career in physical mediums.

    There is one serious problem though, the models created by ZBrush are way too complex for any reasonable machine to be able to handle them. This is why it is primarily used for conceptual work and normal maps (color textures that are calculated based off of higher-polygon models which alter the surfaces of a lower-polygon model to give it a more complex appearance than it actually has).

    From my casual understanding, colors in ZBrush are purely ascthetic, since they likely will be completely scrapped when the model is converted into a normal map.
    thanks for clearing that up for me, its a relief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    This Shiva is hot she not a skinny slut this time around those legs are yummy.
    You know, I've thought many things about the various incarnations of Shiva over the years but this isn't really something I ever thought lol
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