Additional Jobs for the future, a graphic, need help.

[Radacci]

Mmhmmm i can see that, like Lancer Marauder Archer etc over replace Squire and Chemist to build the prerequisites for Jobs in a FFT esque system. I want to see what SE come up with in Beta but i hope to see some changes to the system. If we still have a mostly the same system as 1.0 i pray to Louisoix that atleast the range of viable actions you can borrow from other classes will have increased so there can be some situational boons.

it hasn't, it's more restricted
look at alpha combat vids, and read skill descriptions when they click skills.
Aero=thm/cnj, water=cnj, stone=cnj/thm, Cure=DoM/DoW, Protect=DoM/DoW, Raise=DoM/DoW
Piercing talon=lnc, True Thrust=lnc, heavy thrust=lnc, Feint=DoW, Vorpal Thrust=lnc, invigorate=DoW/DoM, Impulse Raid=DoW
Venomous Bite=DoW, Raging Strike=DoW/DoM, Gloom Arrow=DoW, Misery's End=Arc, Heavy Arrow=Arc. Hawk's Eye=DoW/DoM, Far Shot=Arc.

[Alaltus]

it hasn't, it's more restricted
look at alpha combat vids, and read skill descriptions when they click skills.
Aero=thm/cnj, water=cnj, stone=cnj/thm, Cure=DoM/DoW, Protect=DoM/DoW, Raise=DoM/DoW
Piercing talon=lnc, True Thrust=lnc, heavy thrust=lnc, Feint=DoW, Vorpal Thrust=lnc, invigorate=DoW/DoM, Impulse Raid=DoW
Venomous Bite=DoW, Raging Strike=DoW/DoM, Gloom Arrow=DoW, Misery's End=Arc, Heavy Arrow=Arc. Hawk's Eye=DoW/DoM, Far Shot=Arc.

Could be good could be bad, won't know till i get my hands on it =P i mostly despise having a less resrictive system that has a very restrictive list of actions that are actually worth using.

[Radacci]

Could be good could be bad, won't know till i get my hands on it =P i mostly despise having a less resrictive system that has a very restrictive list of actions that are actually worth using.

Ya i agree, have to test it to make sure
But in 1.0 you couldn't combo with other class skills anyways, so there wasn't much point in using those skills. Most of the reason for using other class skills was cause of CD anyways. And i dunno how you'd logically make a heavy thrust with a bow anyways ^^ other reason would be for incapacitation skills.
But being drg felt a bit meh before, cause most of the skills had long CD, and were very circumstantial. If there's just GCD now, they'd be more useful.
Sounds fun to be able to AOE a lot, and do evasive jumps more frequently, to get rid of enmity

[ShinigamiKayla]

I'm actually okay with the 5th current one o___O that list actually sounds cool~

[Duuude007]

hm... the other temple in uldah, I swear an npc mentions mystic something or other... a future class?

I know, even if, its from the pre Yoshi-P designs.

Still...

[Thebard]

Ok Mog let me tell you this, too many jobs.

I think you have fallen into the trap of taking the pictures too literally and trying to fit them all together without outlining the jobs actual role first. A mammoth task indeed, if done properly.
All the jobs you have added could be fused together with one or more job, blue and scholar immediately springs to mind. Also they don't need to use the weapons of previous incarnations of that job.

Here is my idea based on what you have already done to help you streamline things.
The rule would be - the first job of each class uses the signiture weapon of that class but the second job uses another weapon not used by any class.

For example (using your list) :
Gladiator > Paladin = sword & shield ~ but Dark Knight = Scythe or G.Sword.
Marauder > Warrior = G.axe ~ but Berserker = Dual-wield axe.
Rouge > Thief = dagger ~ but ninja = Tanto.
Lancer > Dragoon = polearm ~ but Samurai = G.Katana.

The others don't fit however, (again just an example) so:
Archer > Bard = Bow ~ but Ranger = xbow or gun?


If you follow the rule and don't insist on having every job from FF ever (fuse some together) you may come up with a better solution than your current one, just an idea.

[Duelle]

All the jobs you have added could be fused together with one or more job, blue and scholar immediately springs to mind. Also they don't need to use the weapons of previous incarnations of that job.

Blue Mage is tricky if it were to be implemented as it was in FFXI. If they hadn't gone and used Carbuncle as a selling point for Arcanist, Blue Mage would have better fit as a job for arcanist (where the Summoner summons the essence of the primals, the Blue Mage would use the essence of other monsters and use their own bodies as the conduit to use their attacks).

The rule would be - the first job of each class uses the signature weapon of that class but the second job uses another weapon not used by any class.

I don't agree with this, as the classes are supposed to be inherently flexible. Using Gladiator as an example, GLA could have access to both Swords and G.Swords, whereas their jobs, Paladin and Dark Knight would be restricted to their respective weapons.

Likewise, MRD would have the option of using a G.Axe or dual wielding one-handed axes, with WAR and BSK excelling at their respective uses.

If you follow the rule and don't insist on having every job from FF ever (fuse some together) you may come up with a better solution than your current one, just an idea.

As I mentioned in another post, using the 2-jobs-per-class rule, we already have potential for 14 jobs in the game with the current classes. With the fan favorites (Arcanist, Fencer, Flayer, Musketeer) that bumps it up to 22 jobs.

[Thebard]

I don't agree with this, as the classes are supposed to be inherently flexible

No they are supposed to be irrevocably linked to one weapon type, you change weapon type and you change class.
A classes flexibility comes from the cross class skills, it has nothing to do with weapons. What game have you been playing? Oh wait nvm I know, FFXI...

[Kirito]

I don't think we should have a sub class B because if you leveled MAR to 50 because of WAR then you automatically get a lvl 50 Berserker or whatever second class there would be.