TESO the biggest rival for ARR?

[Balbanes]

The two that Yoshi is hanging out with?

Ironically, no. Those two are the current leaders. Matt Firor (lead producer for ESO) was the lead director for Dark Age of Camelot back when it was new. Paul Sage (Creative Director) worked on UO.

[Mjollnir]

They in fact do have official boards. They're temporary boards, yes, and for some unimaginable reason not linked to on the main site, but yes there are official boards. They're using the Bethesda boards for the time being.

Thanks a lot Balbanes! I do hope that each game will feed off the other's innovation to create a better experience for players and I'm glad that most posters here don't see this as a FFXIV v TESO discussion, but will most likely be players of both games.

I have a feeling that Yoshi-P has a few as-yet-to-be-disclosed secrets up his sleeve though!

edit: at a glance, looks like there's a fair amount of discussion mentioning ARR over there too!

[Seraphe]

They in fact do have official boards. They're temporary boards, yes, and for some unimaginable reason not linked to on the main site, but yes there are official boards. [LINK]They're using the Bethesda boards for the time being.

Well, lets get over there and start posting everyone. Just make sure to put a nice FFXIV:ARR sig below your post

[LlenCoram]

go play the elder scrolls Morrowind with Morrowind Overhaul.

the creepy design has always been there but just like every thing else that gets put on consoles the world design took a nose dive oblivion and onwards.

I tried Morrowind and Oblivion. Skyrim is the only one I've actually enjoyed, which is probably because they didn't use that godawful Gamebryo engine.

The problem is I don't care at all for the Elder Scrolls universe. It's grand and, frankly, amazing in its scope, but it doesn't grab me in the slightest. I wish them luck, especially as a few Onions want to play it, but I won't be touching it. Someone told me that the game is really pushing to be an RPG first, MMO second, which just strikes me as the same mistake SW:TOR made.

We'll see I suppose. I'll be too busy fishing in New Limsa to care .

[Gramul]

I tried Morrowind and Oblivion. Skyrim is the only one I've actually enjoyed, which is probably because they didn't use that godawful Gamebryo engine.

The problem is I don't care at all for the Elder Scrolls universe. It's grand and, frankly, amazing in its scope, but it doesn't grab me in the slightest. I wish them luck, especially as a few Onions want to play it, but I won't be touching it. Someone told me that the game is really pushing to be an RPG first, MMO second, which just strikes me as the same mistake SW:TOR made.

We'll see I suppose. I'll be too busy fishing in New Limsa to care .

The fault wasn't in the engine, after all, other games that used the engine didn't have the issues ES 3 and 4 had.
The problem was the companies poor understanding of action based game play. Still, I prefer morrowind. More original setting, more varied quests, spellcrafting with flair. Shivering isles for Oblivion was pretty cool too.

[bobbygunz]

FFXIV: ARR has competition from basically every up and coming game due solely to the fact that they all seem to offer more progressive features. But I'm sure there's still a market for FFXIV: ARR. TESO has both jump AND dodge, so FF fans would have an aneurism trying to grapple with both those concepts at the same time. Therefore it will have its own niche demographic. I think that's all SE are really aiming for anyway. They aren't exactly trying to be "the next best thing" they're just trying to be a good thing. Their ambition and self-assuredness was basically curbed when FFXIV originally failed and as long as they get some share of the market, they may be happy enough with that, supposing it's sill enough to support the game.

[Millerna]

I usually give up an Elder Scrolls game after several hours out of pure annoyance that the character models and animations seem entirely out of place.. The world always looks incredible, but the characters feel like they've been designed by a completely different studio .. I'm aware that a lot of people love the Elder Scroll character models/animations though, so it might just be I'm too picky.

That said, Elder Scrolls Online is basically done by a different studio, so I expect the modelling and animation to be different as well (plus that they can't go all out on the details). I also love DAoC and played it a LOT, so I'm quite interesting to see what ESO is going to be like. If it's getting PvP/RvR like in DAoC, I'll definitely play it, but I'm doubtful it will because most current MMO players expect rewards for everything they do, so there'll be little to no PvP/RvR for the sake of PvP/RvR...


That said, I'm a FF fan, so I'll definitely be playing ARR (as long as I can get myself to stop playing FFXI around the time ARR releases )

[Shougun]

.. I'm aware that a lot of people love the Elder Scroll character models/animations though, so it might just be I'm too picky.

I've never played a TES game for its character models and animations. They suck.

Just like the above poster says.. horrible lol. I thank modders for improving character models and animations to a point. But you just dont play TES for that - you arent picky, its bad lol.

[HamHam]

Elder Scroll comes out with commercial on Super Bowl, and FFXIV doesn't, then I'll say TESO will have a bigger pool of players at launch.

Unrealistic, but it could happen.

[Valmonte]

Elder Scroll comes out with commercial on Super Bowl, and FFXIV doesn't, then I'll say TESO will have a bigger pool of players at launch.

Unrealistic, but it could happen.

nobody's going to care how many people you had on launch, if you can hold at least 100000 people after 3 months then you've pretty much succeeded.